Banshee powerband
#11
im not trying to really talk you out of it but just consider riding one before you get one. they are fun but they are not for everyone/and everyone's riding styles. the stock banshee has a light-switch powerband. its either on or off. rippin or idling. it doesnt like anything in between. be sure that is what you want, other wise get used to changing plugs.
Apparently people that say this, and it is sooooooo many, never rode the Tiger back in the day!! Tigers were an American made Race-Ready 3-wheeler with a 2-stroke ATK Rotax engine in them... They had no counterbalancer so they vibrated like crazy, BUT they had a BRUTAL 'top-end' Powerband... Thet came in 80, 125, 200, 250, and 500 versions..... The Shee is smooth compared to this, my modded 370 LR shee is smooth like it is and cranks out the power from 0 RPM all the way to 10 K!!! It is all in the way that you have your engine set up..../
#12
The powerband is the ENGINE SPEED RANGE (measured in RPM's) in which the engine produces XX% or more of the peak power (usually people use 80 to 90% for a number).
For example, if the peak power output 30 HP and you define powerband using 90% of the peak value, your powerband would be the engine speed range in which the engine outputs 27 HP or more.
With four strokes, this rpm range is large and starts at fairly low RPM's (~2500 RPM)
With two strokes, this rpm range is narrow and tends to start at higher RPM's so that the engine produce very high HP. This makes for some very interesting riding when you're learning.
The powerband is independent of throttle position.
By the way, if you don't know how a Banshee's powerband is different than other ATV's, mainly 4 strokes, you're making an unwise move by having your mindset on a Banshee.
Link about powerband and shifting.
For example, if the peak power output 30 HP and you define powerband using 90% of the peak value, your powerband would be the engine speed range in which the engine outputs 27 HP or more.
With four strokes, this rpm range is large and starts at fairly low RPM's (~2500 RPM)
With two strokes, this rpm range is narrow and tends to start at higher RPM's so that the engine produce very high HP. This makes for some very interesting riding when you're learning.
The powerband is independent of throttle position.
By the way, if you don't know how a Banshee's powerband is different than other ATV's, mainly 4 strokes, you're making an unwise move by having your mindset on a Banshee.
Link about powerband and shifting.
#13
By the way, if you don't know how a Banshee's powerband is different than other ATV's, mainly 4 strokes, you're making an unwise move by having your mindset on a Banshee.
#14
Originally posted by: hondaracer305
I went from a 300ex to a banshee no problem, it just takes getting used to it, if you have good riding skills on quads, you should be able to handle a banshee pretty well.
I went from a 300ex to a banshee no problem, it just takes getting used to it, if you have good riding skills on quads, you should be able to handle a banshee pretty well.
#15
Originally posted by: Corpsie
With two strokes, this rpm range is narrow and tends to start at higher RPM's so that the engine produce very high HP. This makes for some very interesting riding when you're learning.
The powerband is independent of throttle position.
With two strokes, this rpm range is narrow and tends to start at higher RPM's so that the engine produce very high HP. This makes for some very interesting riding when you're learning.
The powerband is independent of throttle position.
Of course it is. If your climbing a hill going full throttle and it's not pulling too hard...then your not in the poweband...
#16
Corpsie, i know enough about it to know that that's what i want. I know what a modded banshee's potiential is. Just because i didn't know exactly how it worked, doesn't mean i don't know enough to be narrowing my choices. I've ridin a banshee, so it's not like i'm just going off what i've read, that's what i want. Alkyburnx, that really helps me out, thx.
#17
Originally posted by: Corpsie
I was just saying that it's bad to limit your choices when you don't know much about the choices as it is.
Originally posted by: hondaracer305
I went from a 300ex to a banshee no problem, it just takes getting used to it, if you have good riding skills on quads, you should be able to handle a banshee pretty well.
I went from a 300ex to a banshee no problem, it just takes getting used to it, if you have good riding skills on quads, you should be able to handle a banshee pretty well.
#18
But what is so special about a banshee's powerband, and what about it makes people say it's harder to ride if your not used to it. thanks for all the info
To me the Tiger line of Trikes from the 80s' possessed a insane powerband that was for highly experienced riders, I bet that if the people that exasporate on the so-called 'light-switch powerband' of the Shee had ridden a Tiger prior to riding a Shee, they would never say that the Mighty Shee was Light Switch....... Or if they thought the Shee was light Switch, then rode a tiger---they would $hit their pants [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]:cool
#19
Rojo, I take your word for it. True i never have rode one - i do know about them - but the topic here is about a banshee. Compare a banshee to the bikes today and i think most would tend to agree that it has a pretty tricky powerband if you are not used to it and where you ride and how to work it to your advantage. Thats all i was saying.... Im sure a tiger/rotax engine would pale in comparison and rip a banshee apart.. I do know their legend well. Ahhh...That was back in the day. To bad they never made a quad. or did they?
#20
yeah..those rotax engines are pretty wild...my friends dad has one on his go cart...really fast and super reliable. He mixes it at 80:1 and keeps it pinned at all times and beats it racing all day every weekend....no problems
But anyways, back to topic. I went from a stock 250X to a mildly modified 250r w/o problems. It took a bit to get used to the power but after awhile its no problem at all. And actually it was the first time I had ever driven a 2 stroke quad by myself...it was such a blast but I didnt push it, I wouldnt take it outta 4th gear simply because I was afraid to...it just screamed! But all the rest comes with time....no one is expected to jump on a completely different breed of quad and do well at it
But anyways, back to topic. I went from a stock 250X to a mildly modified 250r w/o problems. It took a bit to get used to the power but after awhile its no problem at all. And actually it was the first time I had ever driven a 2 stroke quad by myself...it was such a blast but I didnt push it, I wouldnt take it outta 4th gear simply because I was afraid to...it just screamed! But all the rest comes with time....no one is expected to jump on a completely different breed of quad and do well at it


