Z400 vs 450R vs Pred vs Raptor
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02-12-2005, 10:27 PM
Z400 vs 450R vs Pred vs Raptor
Originally posted by: reconranger
We pick what we own, because we know these machines intimately! I don't know of any dealer that lets you "test ride" any machine (I think this is a liability issue). If you don't have a buddy who owns one, how you going to get a test ride a bike??? (An isn't your buddy who owns one going to recommend it, just because he owns one???) Trust the opinions of folks who have put hundreds of hard a$$ miles on their mahine!
I own both these bikes. I choose the Z for trail riding, and the 450R for open country. The R loves to rev (just like your YFZ, so you know what I mean), and there is no way this motor likes to be lugged down. So, it likes to run out in open country. Sounds like that's your application, so I think it is a good choice.
The Z is no doubt the best all-around machine there is. If you did a lot of trail riding, it would be my pick, but that doesn't sound like your application.
We pick what we own, because we know these machines intimately! I don't know of any dealer that lets you "test ride" any machine (I think this is a liability issue). If you don't have a buddy who owns one, how you going to get a test ride a bike??? (An isn't your buddy who owns one going to recommend it, just because he owns one???) Trust the opinions of folks who have put hundreds of hard a$$ miles on their mahine!
I own both these bikes. I choose the Z for trail riding, and the 450R for open country. The R loves to rev (just like your YFZ, so you know what I mean), and there is no way this motor likes to be lugged down. So, it likes to run out in open country. Sounds like that's your application, so I think it is a good choice.
The Z is no doubt the best all-around machine there is. If you did a lot of trail riding, it would be my pick, but that doesn't sound like your application.
Dealers must be different in your neck of the woods. I have yet to purchase anything from my dealer that I haven't spent at least an hour of seat time on first. I'm talking sport bikes, quads, and personal watercraft. It's never an issue. I've purchased at least 8 units from them in the last fifteen yrs and test rode every one of them prior to signing.
Seems a little odd to me that any dealer not let you test ride one.
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i doubt we could get a test ride maybe expect up and down the street but nothing else [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] Thanks for the links guys your making it easier to get the info and make the decision [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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02-13-2005, 08:32 PM
Z400 vs 450R vs Pred vs Raptor
I've had a chance to ride a Raptor, KFX, YFZ and a 450R, If you like the light weight 2 stroke feel of the YFZ then you'd like the 450R. The YFZ and 450R feel a lot lighter than the Z and a whole lot lighter than the Raptor. The specs say that the YFZ and 450R are only 20lbs lighter than the Z, but I question that after riding both. The power on the Z comes on mid-high similar to the YFZ and 450R but there is just less of it, where as the Raptor has more low end torque.
If I were buying new I would definitly buy the 450R out of this group. Certainly you can modify the Z or Raptor to compete/beat some 450's, but it's the lighter weight of the 450R that's attractive to me.
BTW: Most dealers seem to have a little room to negotiate on the price of the 450R. You should be able to get one for $5600 - $6000 OTD.
If I were buying new I would definitly buy the 450R out of this group. Certainly you can modify the Z or Raptor to compete/beat some 450's, but it's the lighter weight of the 450R that's attractive to me.
BTW: Most dealers seem to have a little room to negotiate on the price of the 450R. You should be able to get one for $5600 - $6000 OTD.
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