You're right. I was just saying that even if he had enough power, his gearing would have to go WAY up.

 

If I were you I would go with the Raptor 660. Nevermind the fact that its 260 cc's higher and has reverse. Its also a Yamaha. Honda may be the best on earth, but when it comes to sport quads theres nothing better than a good old Yamaha. As far as top speed goes, you might get 5 mph higher with the Raptor. Raptor tops anywhere from 70 - 75. The Honda look for anything between 65 - 70. The raptor handles a-lot better, its better on trails, it has a more confortable seat, and also has reverse.

Hope this helps.

 

The new 400ex has reverse now. And most people say that the 400 handles better also. But if you widen the Rappy out, it's just as good. Still, go with the Raptor.

 

This is a funny forum---------I dont get the love for the honda 400 ex, this quad is rear heavy, powerless, and from my accounts not very dependable. This is not a quad to compare to the 660. It is however a good one to buy your wife to retreave refreshments for the guys. Dont buy the RHonda ex, its for girls or guys who like abuse. You will be sucking hind tit from everyone on the trail except for the poor guy that fell in love with the 300ex and dumped all of his piggybank money into building the S&&T out of a dust eating man b%^ch. As you can tell I think hondas are great for kids but as soon as the hair pops out you need to ride something else preferably a YAMI. Yamaha has slapped the competition around for years and from the recent rides doestn look like its changing. Raptors are the ONLY 4 stroke quads to consider in my veiw. All of the tip happy, too torquey reveiws on here are a joke, Ive had a 2001 for years and never experieinced these occurances, although I will say the banshees still rule if you ride in the desert or large open areas.

 

i do agree that comparing the two is like comparing a metro to a mustang, but a 400 ex has its place a good trail bike especially now that it has reverse. the downfall it has is that it is air cooled. i have had an 03 and 04 raptors and liked the rides of them both. i agree about swapping the stock rear tires out. when you want them to slide they wont and when you want them to hook they wont. your preference will make your decicion, what kind of riding you do and what you ride with. a little word of warning, if you buy a 400 anything dont get mad at the utility's that are gonna pick on you.....my lil 650 outty likes stock and piped 400's for snacks. so if it were me 660 it, if i was going to do it again,(which im thinkin seriously) i would have another 04 660.

 

Bullsh*t buddy. 450s stock go into the 70's, not a 400ex. I hate people who over hype every damn thing they say. Read a couple magazines buddy. I'd trust them over anything you have to say after that dream you had about going 75 with a 400ex.

 

I don't have much experience with ATV's but I just bought one and while asking around and all, most pointed me in the direction of the Z400. Even the sales guy did. Basically said it was the best bang for your dollar. I paid right at $6000 for mine.

 

Whoever said there 400ex whent 70-75mph is off there medication!My 400ex had respectible mods and at best it would go 68mph.My ds goes 70-75mph on a lucky day pushing her a little.yoshiequipped your exagerating just a little or ALOT.Dont mean to call you a liar but that 400ex just isnt that fast.Sh*t if they where that fast i would have kept mine and not sold it for my ds650x.

 

Thats nothing guys. Listen to this funny load of bull.

In that ATV Source Forum, I had a guy tell me his KFX 700 could run 85 stock. Then, he told me his buddy had a banshee that would do over 100. I was wanting to talk to guys knowledgeable of atv's, that right there made me change my forum. Even though, after I corrected the little weasel everyone went killer on me and they all ganged up on me telling me I didn't know what I was talking about.

Thankfully, I found this forum where people who know their abc's to atv forums.

 

My brothers 400 ex is stock and it goes 65-70 max. I don't see how you are getting much more speed without incredible mods. I'm not calling anyone a liar, I would just have to see it to believe it. Other 400's we ride with have similar performance as my brothers.

On a side note saw a stock trx honda 450 go all out against a bomb Outy 800 with 28" Dirt Devils on it. The bomb took off and let by 2 quads and held it all the way to top end which was the same for both. They went at it for about 3/4 of a mile.