Wow Truckracer.......8 months exactly. I re-read my last post......yep, the tranny did blow....lol.

 

Why your at it add the GasGas Wild Hp 300 to it. I got the Dyno sheet to prove it puts out 42.7 HP to the rear wheels and weights in at 386 lbs.

The dnyo sheet is at GT Thunder along with pics of the new a-arms.

 

I think Yamaha has really turned a lot of knowageable people off by not taking care of the first year Raptor owners. I had a Warrior that was first year (1987), bought it new in 86, kept it 13 years. Changed the oil & filter and never had a problem. My Banshee was never a problem either (just too damn slow). I can't see how Yamaha missed the boat on the Raptor...


And yes, the GasGas needs to be put in the list.

 

Well said 1986atc250r I havent read something so well put in a long while. truthful, very informative and to the point I will have to give ya 2 thumbs up [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

UPDATED - New members to the Forum were missing some good info. Thanks DSAPP



SPORT QUAD power-TO-WEIGHT ratioS… Highest to Lowest
(approximate stock rear wheel horsepower / factory claimed dry weight)


1. Suzuki Quadzilla LT500 ---------> 51srwhp / 390lbs = 0.1308 horsepower per pound
2. Polaris Predator 500---------------> 45srwhp / 415lbs = 0.1084 horsepower per pound
3. Cannondale Cannibal -------------> 38srwhp / 375lbs = 0.1013 horsepower per pound
4. Yamaha Banshee ------------------> 37srwhp / 386lbs = 0.0959 horsepower per pound
5. Suzuki QuadRacer 250R --------> 31srwhp / 327lbs = 0.0948 horsepower per pound
6. Kawasaki Tecate 4 ----------------> 33srwhp / 339lbs = 0.0944 horsepower per pound
7. Honda 250R --------------------------> 31srwhp / 329lbs = 0.0942 horsepower per pound
8. Bombardier DS650 ----------------> 42srwhp / 465lbs = 0.0903 horsepower per pound
9. Yamaha Raptor 660R -------------> 35srwhp / 399lbs = 0.0877 horsepower per pound
10. Suzuki Z400 / Kawasaki X400 -> 32srwhp / 370lbs = 0.0865 horsepower per pound
11. Honda 400EX -----------------------> 29srwhp / 374lbs = 0.0775 horsepower per pound
12. Polaris Sport 400 ------------------> 31srwhp / 481lbs = 0.0644 horsepower per pound
13. Yamaha Blaster --------------------> 19srwhp / 320lbs = 0.0594 horsepower per pound
14. Yamaha Warrior -------------------> 22srwhp / 397lbs = 0.0554 horsepower per pound
15. Polaris Scrambler 500 2WD ---> 29srwhp / 525lbs = 0.0552 horsepower per pound
16. Honda 300EX -----------------------> 17srwhp / 377lbs = 0.0451 horsepower per pound
17. Kawasaki Mojave -----------------> 17srwhp / 379lbs = 0.0449 horsepower per pound
18. Honda 250X -------------------------> 15srwhp / 351lbs = 0.0427 horsepower per pound
19. Honda 250EX -----------------------> 13srwhp / 349lbs = 0.0372 horsepower per pound
20. Suzuki QuadSport 230 ----------> 11srwhp / 309lbs = 0.0356 horsepower per pound
21. Wal-Mart powerWheels ---------> 0.5srwhp / 50lbs = 0.0100 horsepower per pound

 

Sounds like the GasGas needs to go on a diet, that weight is alot higher than I would have expected them to be.

 

Truckracer
add the GasGas 300 2-stroke to the list. 386lbs @ 42.7 RWHP = 0.1106. That puts it in 2nd under the quadzilla.
The big thing that adds weight to the GasGas is the 1/8 wall tubing for the frame and the 4.5 gallon tank. Also little things like horn, nerf bars, .190 douglas rims on 4ply razor tires, big body shocks, so GasGas increased the weight buy give the owner alot more goodies. Change ans remove some of these things and I bet it would beat the Zilla.

 

Lt - I have already seen the GasGas. Do a search in here (I think Cannodale forum), I watched a guy buy one on the parking lot of Little Sahara (Waynoka), then ride in the dunes for a few hours and then drag race it. I was fairly impressed with the bike, however, the only drag racing he did was against the Raptors, Ds650's and Ex400s in attendance. He never lost, but he never ran it against any of the other two strokes there. We had a pair of Zilla's out, I would have loved to seen just how far the Zilla would leave em.

 

I remember reading that post awhile back. I would love to see a zilla and GasGas I think it would be an interesting race (greatest 2-stroke ever built vs the new kid or the Honda 250r replacement). Any way I'm sure the zila would win, but that would be the only one that could beat it.

 

In the new DW I got in the mail today they said Bombardier plans to shave 60 pounds of the DS for 2004 as well as some other handling modifications.