Well I guess I worded the independant suspension part wrong. The Scram as you prob know has a solid rear end that won't flex side to side with out the wheel coming off the ground. The Vinson has a shock on each side of the axle so the whole machine can flex over. I might try tightening these up from the factory settings to see how it rides on sharp corners and stuff.
Pro Rider
nah, it's still a solid swingarm, despite having dual shocks. The rear tires won't move up/down independantly of each other. SO, its suspension setup is just as stable, and probably nearly identical to, the Scrambler. There hasn't been much change to the SRA/IFS architecture in the last 15 years. The most major recent change is truely independant rear suspension (IRS). Now THAT is different, and will definitely cause more side to side swaying, but THAT issue is another huge issue that's been hashed out a million times in a million other posts. (OK, a million is a very slight exaggeration)
I think it all has to do with not taking a pee until you get up the hill. The cafateria at work doesn't open for a half and I have craving for eggs. Computers at work have WebSense blocking all good content, so I can't see the twin peaks girl. This is not a good way to start the day.
Pro Rider
Apples and oranges. The Vinson is a Utility. The Polaris Scrambler is a 4x4 sport quad. Though heavy for a sport quad, the scrambler has a lower center of gravity, and a better power to weight ratio. It is going to beat a Vinson up any hill out there. Now coming back down the hill is another matter, the Scrambler's 4x4 system works great going up hill, but is ineffective coming back down. Plus no engine braking.
The Scrambler still has a lower center of gravity and will have less tendancy to go *** over teacups.
Sport quads climb as well or better than any 4x4 utility. Weight transfer, power to weight ratio all factor in. My Baja X will outclimb any utility out there, be it dunes or mountain sides. Those driving front wheels on any 4x4 really don't help that much when there is practically no weight on them.
2x4 utilities are pretty worthless when it comes to hills. They have all the top heaviness, none of the power. They spin out at the first sign of trouble.
The Scrambler still has a lower center of gravity and will have less tendancy to go *** over teacups.
Sport quads climb as well or better than any 4x4 utility. Weight transfer, power to weight ratio all factor in. My Baja X will outclimb any utility out there, be it dunes or mountain sides. Those driving front wheels on any 4x4 really don't help that much when there is practically no weight on them.
2x4 utilities are pretty worthless when it comes to hills. They have all the top heaviness, none of the power. They spin out at the first sign of trouble.
Trailblazer
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Originally posted by: luny2nz
i think vinson and eiger are named after some huge mountain somewhere. I think the twin peaks is actualy named after the girl who took my order at denny's this mornig. And whats wrong with having a plate of eggs in the woods. Especialy if the twin peaks girl was cooking them? As long as there were no grizzlys around.
glad somebody caught that hole filled story, geez! Originally posted by: luny2nz
i think vinson and eiger are named after some huge mountain somewhere. I think the twin peaks is actualy named after the girl who took my order at denny's this mornig. And whats wrong with having a plate of eggs in the woods. Especialy if the twin peaks girl was cooking them? As long as there were no grizzlys around.
Pro Rider
yup lockers can be installed in a vinny, leave it in high range low is to low, and makes the tires spin.
the scrammys electro magnetic 4x4 may be good(when it works) hubs are more than a locker for a vinson. 1 hub for my buddys scrammy cost him 300 with the disk, and wireing and bearings.
the scrammys electro magnetic 4x4 may be good(when it works) hubs are more than a locker for a vinson. 1 hub for my buddys scrammy cost him 300 with the disk, and wireing and bearings.