I can't say I've ever ridden the trx 250r but I have watched it on the mx circuit and like
ZUKZILLA550 was just saying it does do a terrible nose dive over the jumps and through the whoops, but yes I have also noticed alot of the newer machines doing it also, the banshee
one of them, it's hard to say what machines can actually take flight without the dredful
nose dive affect. But I didn't mean to offend you YFZBLU, everyone has their opinions,but I don't
agree with it being a piece of crap handler. I also thought it was nice to hear a "pro racer"
say something other than most would say about the trx250r.

 

zukzilla550 the only reason the nose would go down on that 250r was becouse it was real heavy.
i think they had a sortof steel frame. the 88 and 89 were alot lighter and faster and great for jumping.

but how fast di the quadzilla top out tho

 

In MX racing probably not much,the track's were too short,and to top one out and hit a jump would be suicide.

 

I think they are great quads once dialed in. For a MX track they aren't the best choice because of thier size and weight. However on trails the do great. Sometimes a little tight,but in reality the TOTAL width of the 500 outer wheel to outer wheel is barely 2 inches from mine. Big deal. They however have great manners and that power curve just pulls you out of anything weather you are in second gear or 5 th. They really shine out in the open. Nice, soft ride. I can only imagine what it would be with some even better after market shocks. If I come accros one in my neighborhood for sale I'll be all over it.

 

I've enver driven a 250r but i have had an lt250 and a banshee and I prefer the handling and power of my quadzilla way better.

I mostly trail ride but with my zilla its a matter of pointing in the direction i want to go and push the throttle...no matter what gear your in, it does wha i want.

The extra width would only help it handle better, as well as the weight. it stays glued to the trail. I've never put mine on its side (stood it up on the back bumper a few too many times) but the banshee, thats a different story.

 

Hey HEMI .... Thats a "GOOD POINT" ya know everyone is always lookin to widen their rides by 2"-
3", but yet they{the Zilla haters} Complain the Zilla is too wide. W.T.F.!!!!! If they thought about it
more before saying it , their rides after widening them is the same width, if not MORE than the ZILLA!! So why is it too wide??? It's gotta have some stability for the" POWERPLANT" it's
equipt with.

 

well, that's one of the things i like most about the zilla.

like i said i find it is well balanced and stable, but you never get to unleash all of its power in the trail, however there is always plenty of juicw when you need it.

I think that maybe smaller riders would have a problem with the zilla in any type of course (mx, woods), and that is why they all think it is only a good drag racer.

Put it this way...Race me in the trail and I'll win. I'll get the holeshot and then you'll never be able to get around my "too wide, too heavy, fat *** quad!!"

 

Some of you guys must not have been really into quads back when the Zilla first came out, or you'd know that it actually posted BETTER times the the smaller 250's on most of the MX tracks. The main reason that it didn't survive as an mx'er is because it had to race in it's own class (open), and Suzuki wasn't going to put up too much money for pro riders riding Zilla's to beat other Zillas. Didn't make a lot of sense. As far as the dimensions go, the only non-ideal dimension on the Zilla is it's wheelbase (length). The front end width is still the best factory MX width ever made. MX'ers have a maximum width of 50 inches that they can't go over, and every pro gets as close to that as they can. Stock Zilla front ends are still a few inches narrower than that, but they are still the closest STOCK width ever made. (The DS 650 has a wider rear, but not quite as wide of front). As far as weight goes, despite it's larger dimensions, at 392 lbs, it's lighter than a raptor and only a few pounds heavier than a Banshee, . (BTW, the 85 & 86 Lt250R weighed the same as the Honda 250R... THREE WHEELER! That's right, only 293 lbs. - lightest full size performance quad ever. That doesn't necessarily make them the best mxers though.) Also, a Zilla motor only weighs 10 lbs more than a 250R motor. (Honda's were tanks compared to the other 250's made.. mostly because of their retarded square tube frames.) The only reason the Honda 250R is a legendary MXer is because at the time, people loved Honda because of it's great 3 wheelers, and those fanatics were willing to sink tons of $ in them to make them awsome. Think about it. Serious $ for aftermarket cylinders with power valves (Stock on Suzi's), even more $ on lighter round tubing frames (Stock on Suzi's), and after market axles and A-arm to widen the quads to get same width as... you guessed it, stock Zilla's. Furthermore, to get close to the HP of a slightly modified Zilla is nearly impossible from the Honda mill. If Honda would have produced a larger bore 2 stroke racer to compete with the Zilla, we wouldn't even be talking about the 250R.

 

Well said yager and thanks for the info.

I was wondering about the weight of a stock zilla. I have a banshee too and the zilla seems easier to lift into the truck than the shee.

I couldn't see it weighing anymore than these new 450 thumpers coming out lately, so at around 50hp stock were talking a better power to weight ratio than a yfz??

 

I've owned several Zillas, and I loved every one of them. I had no trouble staying glued to the grab bar of my friend's 88 250R with any of them. The only reason I was behind him is because he knew the trails in the dunes better than I did, so he usually lead during cat-n-mouse adventures. That's not to say that I never passed him and roosted the crap out of him. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] Personally, I like the handling of the Zilla more than the LT250R and Banshee. The 250R handles pretty good, but its steering is a little too quick without a steering damper. All in all, the Zilla is a great quad, and I wouldn't pass up the chance to own another.