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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by: KISSSOFDEATH
But why would anyone want to run full throttle with the locker engaged? Its just like running full throttle in reverse.
ever been stuck?

This is one of the reasons I chose the p650 over a Grizz. I still buried the Prarie in a drift once that took me like an hour of digging and simultaneously pushing the quad, holding the diff lock, pulling the reverse overide, working the throtle, and working the bars back and forth to get out.

 
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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Been there and I understand your point...I prefer no limiter at all and will eventually have it wired up that way...especially for snow.

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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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[/quote]the BF is also awesome and would be my current pick but it's a little too top heavy, has some wierd 4x4 things with reverse and stuff, and i don't know how much i'd like the manual diff locker, i'd have to ride one for a while to see.[/quote]

The Kawasaki manual-pull diff-lock is AWESOME. I wish more manufacturers would take a hint and include this type of system instead of "push-button, all-electric." While the electric system may be more high tech and slightly easier, it's much less reliable and creative compared to the Kawi system. I would love for someone to find a way to rig up the Kawi system to the KingQuad somehow. The Kawi pull-lever is varible, slightly pull for some extra traction, completely pull for all possible traction. VERY RELIABLE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE STOPPED! Great idea Kawasaki!
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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I'll stick with the push button system...if you have to rock it and stand on one side holding that lever and the throttle is a pain...if you get off and walk it the lever just isn't much of a possibility...I'd rather know it's locked and just have the throttle to worry about, yes, that means bypassing limiters and I don't have a problem with that. I also understand why they put them in place, the novice riders really could hurt themselves on the bog bores without some safety features in place and I'm sure it helps limit their liability which is just good business sense.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 12:36 AM
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I forgot to mention I am one of the ones opposed to heavy safety measures for diff-lock operation. If you are not experienced enough to handle diff-lock in all drive ranges and without limitation, you probably shouldn't be on a KingQuad or any other big diff-lock 4x4 for that matter, should you?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Goblin....It's all about Liability, they can't discern between the experienced and novice when they are selling them so they have to put such safety features on there to protect themselves, smart business and, begrudgingly, I would do the same. I've seen my fair share of accidents and more often it's the 'experienced' rider and one you wouldn't expect it to happen to either pushing his limits or simply making a misjudgement. Personally, I would prefer to have no limiters of any kind on a machine because that's just another mod I have to do in the future BUT I understand the reasoning and would buy the machine anyway....just my opinion.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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The EFI on KQ would be such a great advantage over trying to jet 2 carbs on BF in event you have thoughts about trying some of these OHV jambories. The Crested Buttes, Colo. 12,000 ft ; Marysvale, Utah 10,000 ft.; Wallace, Ida. 8,000 ft. If you plan to keep it on the farm then its no big deal. I have had fuel injection on a couple road bikes and it is fantastic.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by: Rainking
Yes they will...the Polaris EFI already has a programmer out for it and with the amount of R&D time with the KQ I wouldn't be surprised if the aftermarket companies already have their hands on one and a unit ready to go. Tunability of the EFI is jut not a concern to me, going to be easier to deal with then Carbs.

Jesse
I agree with most everyone's opinions here. Everyone is right about atleast one thing for sure. With that having been said like it's been said many times all of them have their pro's and cons here are a few of my observations after riding a few of them
. I rode a BF 750 Earlier this week and since have been thoroughly impressed with it. It started easily and had very impressive power. I like the locking diff system, 4 way headlights and pretty much everything else with the ecception of the cargo storage.

Also I was at the Polaris dealer today and they had a few 2005 models in. They didn't have the SP 800 in just yet but they swore the 700 and 800 were extremely similar in suspension etc. accept in the power category. I rode the Sportsman 700 EFI and did not find the feel near as sporty as the BF 750. Also more importantly it had just as many annoying quirks/safety features. You cannot go into park or high without holding the brake down only low and reverse. Also you cannot have all of the headlights at the same time either a spotlight on the handlebars or 2 lame one's on the front grille. To me the polaris seemed a little more tipsy even with the BF's higher seat height Probably due to the weight and being it was only a 700 wasn't even in the same category of throttle response even with the EFI. So for my riding style I think I will go BF unless my Suzuki dealer drives overseas and steals me a KQ [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]. Also the large sticker price on the Polaris will not even include a receiver for the hitch O_o

 
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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i agree the lever manual locker on the prairie is the best locker system.i miss that setup. i dont care for the swich on my artic cat id rather have the lever.
 
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