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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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I'm sure the KQ can handle anything you throw at it, it's a fine quad. At the VERY bottom end, meaning from 0-4or 5 it's the slowest of the bunch. Not that this is a detriment to you, but it has what I can best describe to you as a stall before it takes off. Then it's very fast throughout the rest of the powerband.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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My KQ is slowly losing the ability to wheelie...the more weight I pack on the front the less it likes to come up, I put 26 inch 589's on..and a winch, in high it won't pop up but a few of inches from startup. And a foot or two at best in Low. Now I've added 35 pounds to the front, before that in low siting on the seat you could stab it and it would pop right up, if you kept on it, the fronts would stay up as long as you had nerve or until you hit a bump.

It does not hit like the BF from a stand still! (at least from what I've seen in vids and read from those that own both).

On the trail if you want to mess with it... stab it on a bump and then your right into the "sweet spot" on the KQ from 10mph and up it will go nose up easy.

It could be that you guys are comparing different lines of thinking.

Each quad has it's good and not so good points. The KQ is the best all around ever offered, might not be drag king, mud king, GC king, low power king, or even trail king... but it does better if you tally all the marks at the end of the day. It excells at being a well rounded quad! In the top two in all catagorys you can rate it in, and thus at the end of the day it would win (and does win) a "shootout".

But if your a mudder only...it is not number 1 (polaris 800 maybe?).

If you want the most GC, Arctic cat owns that..

If you want wheelie power and drag power..the brute..

If your hauling alot of junk around...it's not number 1...

If you want the best all around quad..it pretty much has that title now!

Hey guys...go out and ride your quads...have fun, be glad we all don't have to buy the same thing!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Hey guys,

this is my first utility but not my first quad. Me and my buddy both bought our KQ and they are the same. They will not pull there own wheelie without rider help. I dont know if one of you own a realy special KQ but if yours wheelies own its own I am jealous, thats the perfect 4*4.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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LOL superdave....
 
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:04 AM
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If you can't get it to wheelie by just stabing it... I don't know what to tell you, in the field next to my house (before the 589's and winch were on it) it would do it fine. This is not from a dead stop...if I'm rolling ahead at 3 to 4 and punch it ..it came up in high or low..but much higher in low.
What could be the difference? Seems like we are split half and half?I wonder if it's the efi and altitude...if it has been set to run really good in certain paremters and good but not optimized in others? I don't know? You know...say the senors run best at say 2000 to 3000 ...and the power is compensated for at other levels but not at optimim? My neighbor just bought one..I'll have to see if his is the same as mine!

Have some new photo's of the king when they update my pics...
 
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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MonZooki..

Same here, High range not from dead stop but at 3 or 4 mph it will come up with no rider help, not always all the way up. Low range, no help needed and mine will stand stratight up, dead stop or at 3 or 4 mph. Doesn't happen instantly like dumping a clutch on a quad, but more of when its gets to the meat of the powerband.

And as far as comparing Well, my King comes up easier than my Prairie 650 rider help or not. Period. I get to ride them both everyday so I don't know why anybody can argue. (Jumps much better too).

Another point I found interesting this weekend which suiprised me. While we had both machines in a nearby gravel pit playing around, I was on some side hills and the king was much more stable than the prairie..!!?? Same when I would get one of the rear tires of the ground, you know when thw left front tire goes into a dip, right front is up high left rear is up high and rioght rear is in the air, prairie would tip over easier than the King.

I love my prairie caus eof the instant power, but the more I ride the king the more confidence it inspires in me.

So This is a moot conversation. Buy them both. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
 
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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Hey Everyone.

You are all right and all wrong about the wheeling of the KQ. I am a salesman at a very high volume Suzuki dealer. My brother spent two months nagging me about the KQ, when was it coming in??? Finally, he got the first one that we got. Wow, it went good. It would wheelie with some effort in high gear, in low gear it would wheelie fine. HOWEVER. The next KQ that came in had incredible low end. It would REALLY come up as explosively as the TP or P. So I told my brother about this figuring that he needed to have his valves readjusted. So we brought the machine in for its first service, nope, valves were fine. SO, I do believe that some of you have KQ that you can honestly say have good bottomend and some of you like CAM have legit concerns. And then others of you have just come off of a smaller machine and it is great to ride the KQ and probably don't know the difference. I ride a Vinson auto and even with my brothers running so poorly with the low end, he absolutely, no doubt about it smokes my a$$.

Now the BF TP P thing. Well, I have ridden all of them. The BF has incredible low end, almost too much. The TP/P have the same as my other customers good running King Quad. The difference is that the KQ puts the SPORT back in Sport Utility. IT is a blast riding this thing around our motorcross track where the others aren't.

IMO to sum it all up. If I were drag racing a Cobra Mustang and a Porsche 911...Hmm...Cobra...lol
If I were carving up the coast roads of California..lol....Porsche...

If lowend grunt is what you want with superb handling/jumping and cornering ability, try and test drive the KQ at the dealer and find the one that runs right. And if someone from Suzuki denies that there are <good ones/bad ones>, then we will just have to wait and have some aftermarket company figure it out for us and offer the solution....Keep in mind guys, the GSXR 1000 is designed to have the timing retarded during low RPM operation, actually I think that all of the GSXRs' are like that. Maybe this somehow has the same technology??????

Thanks for reading

David
 
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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Oh yeah,

When I say wheelie, I mean from a dead stop and no body english or pulling on the bars. Also, for you that are having the problems, check you head pipe after 15 minutes of riding and see if it is cherry red? This happens to my brothers....No one can figure it out. Also smells like there is unspent fuel in the exhaust...Could this be related? My service guys are baffled. His will also sometimes flash the EFI light, unfortunately the system is not designed to 'memorize' the code, the machine has to stay running and we had to shut it down in fear that it was going to catch fire. Couldn't get the code to come on again. My customer that has great power has had zero issues with his???Hmmmm. Also, we have found out from a few customers that the machine is sensetive to some fuels, especially, high octane...Go figure.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Great! That means i have two "Bad ones"
 
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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LOL! I guess that means that it wasn't that the yellow is faster than the red..
 
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