i never said redline is bad, its just amsoil is the absoloute king of synthetics. period.

oh and torco's nice stuff, but i cant seem to find it in my area.

 

Ya and FORD makes the best truck right.......LMAO. AMSOIL is good stuff but I personally like Redline better. Being a mechanic/enthusiest for the Pikes Peak hill climb you learn allot of information on things that work and don't. I have found Redline to build better power and not break down as fast as amsoil under extreme heat and pressure!

 

i use maxima ultra full synthetic. it has great cold flow rate for start ups, and has higher shear strength than most other synthetic oils out there. plus its ester based, small molicules that are hard to break down, and has PAO. PAO and esters work well TOGETHER to provide wet clutch protection and coat the inside of your engine all the time, no dry spots.

not bashing amsoil, but it isnt the best synthetic oil for the money... its PAO based and has non polar molicules. this mean it doesnt stick to frign anything! it wont even stick to the jug its in! i bought amsoil synthetic and didnt even put it into my mechine...... poured it into a measuring cup and then back into the jug. it didnt leave a coating on the measuring cup! that makes me worry about what it isnt doing inside my engine.

plus oils that are only composed of POA bases will wear out our engine seals, so thats why you will get leaks.

iv heard redline is right up there with maxima, cutting edge oil technology!

 

what are you trying to say there, buddy?

chassis wise, ford is superior in every aspect.

gm has the best gas motors and trannies.

and the ONLY reason to even consider touching a slowpar with a 10 foot pole is the cummins engine (which technically has nothing to do with chrysler).

the 5.7 hemi is a cheaply built 2-bolt main engine that although "hemi" USED to mean something, it is now OUTDATED by better flowing pentroof construction featured on nearly all new engines. thats right, you pay MORE for OLDER TECHNOLOGY!

plus, everybody knows that chrysler is know for the worst trannies in the business, and dodges suffer from more front end (ball joint, power steering pump, tie rod end, etc) problems than you can shake a stick at. older dodges also are notorious for body mounts coming loose (there arent enough even when they are all good).

personally, i cant stand the plastic-city interior either.

oh, and chryslers warranty? complete bullsh!t. nothing but problems. ive had so many friends get ripped by chrysler its not even funny, and now they all drive gm or ford.

its funny when people wonder why the f150's been the best selling truck for over 30 years in a row, and chryslers in need of a bailout. ford was the only of the big 3 to not need one.

also, look how many police cars, ambulances, tow trucks, and construction vehicles are , you guessed it, FORD AND GM. dodge has no real presence in any of those categories with exception of police cars, to an extent (crown vic and impala still out number all chrysler by far) oh, and on another note, what about when chrysler tried to set up intrepids for police use with heavier brakes, and during police testing, the brakes caught on fire? nice move. and they got into a lawsuit for that. but guess what, you probably didnt hear of it since chryslers a bunch of worthless, sneaky, lying, @$$holes that try to cover everything up.

oh and what about all the gen3 seatbelts that got them into countless lawsuits and they refused to correct?

oh and the pos viper wannabe sportscar???? yeah, even problems with that, too. the frame tabs for the control arms had bad welds and would rip off at random. plus, lots of overheating and wheel hub failures, too. corrective action - NOTHING.

oh and mopar scored the top 5 out of 10 places in forbe's poorest performing cars list of 2008 - GOOD JOB!

oh and lets not forget the 2.7l v6 which is guaranteed to sludge up before 60k! there arent enough oil passages, and the oil cooks up in the top end. corrective action - NADA!

nice one, chrysler

 

FYI MODERN hemi engines are made in Mexico. and i find that they all puff blue smoke at start up.....

cummins desils are ok. but i hate desile in general...

ford is just starting to update there technology, 4years ago they where doing the same thing as everyone else. ford fullyboxd frames are expensive and if hit are almost always totaled....not good on insurance rates. i prefer C frames myself.

PLUS chrysler rejected bailout money this week, somwhere in the neighborhood of 700 billion....ford and gm are likely to take it.

warrenty depands on the dealer too....how much they will advocate for you to get necessary repairs.

 

What are you 2? When is the last time you even drove a Chrysler? Worst trannys LOL obviously you got to be in your 60's, come on man overhead cam engines in a truck? Seriously? These engines produce the lowest HP in the industry. IMO Ford builds the ugliest truck on the road in the F-series bar none! The only reason Ford is doing good with its cars is because of Volvo giving them the knowledge/vehicles to build one.This must be the reason Ford gave up on the wind......Freestar whatever it was no help from Volvo LOL Like Lee Iaccoca said "Show them how to do it and they still screw it up" (Aerostar & Astro Van) If you want to talk #1 in sales GM kills Ford in overall sales of trucks with both GMC and Chevrolet this is not rocket science. I have no idea what you are talking about on the Viper but at least Chrysler still builds the Viper unlike the Ford GT! The Viper just broke the fastest Lapp at the ring with its old tech, old school, POS Viper LOL Ya the Viper sucks alright! Speaking of HP well at least Chrysler has never had to use a Supercharger to make real word HP ####'s unlike the cheep Mustang and GT! I hope Ford can build a better Diesel engine than gas as the new Scorpion engine sure looks good...... on paper. Ford ruined there relationship International with poor Ford designed engine controllers on the 6.0 & 6.4 PS engines and you better not say different as these engines in other applications ( medium duty truck/marine) work just fine without Ford intervention! I bet the whole Firestone fiasco is all Firestone's fault right? I sure hope your Ford does not have a ignition fire or head gasket failure anytime soon! Just because everyone buys one does not make them better it just means they are cheep like most people in this country. You know Wall Mart is #1 too but it does not make them the best place to buy everything. Good day I am done with this go nowhere thread!

 

It has nothing to do with the Ford Engine Managment Computers it is Siemens/International that designed the computer for the engine, and also it is to do with poor designs, Oil coolers plugging up, taking out EGR coolers, because of design flaw in cooling system flow, head gaskets blowing because of not enough tension down on the head due to not enough head bolts (6.0 and 6.4, 10 bolts per head compared to 7.3 with 14 bolts per head). The new 6.4's have had injector failures left right and center, that again is Siemens fault, as they are the ones that supplied the injector system for the engine, now the rads leaking, taking out the horizontal EGR cooler, yes, that is Fords fault.

I am a certified Ford Diesel Mechanic, I see these all the time, yes, some of it is from abuse, but most of it is poor designing by the manufacturer of the engine. The reason why you did not see many failures in the Medium Duty line is due to the fact that the F-Superduty makes up a good 85% of these engines, so there are a heck of alot more Superduties out there than there are medium duty trucks, meaning alot more statistics on engine faulures.

 

that is a VERY important point, and its one that chrysler fans FAIL to realize, especially with transmission problems.

dodge boy -

mopar is absofknloutley #1 with trans problems since the 60's and theyre still going strong with thier reputation. dont be foolish and ignorant, its common knowledge.

r42le - not a truck trans but chrysler and the worst trans ever built in the history of autos
46re- CRAP, joke of a truck trans
nv4500 & 5600 - almost decent, but have a weak, undersized input shaft

and ohc engines in a truck??? YES! pushrod motors are OLD TECH and are becoming obsolete, hate to tell ya, chief.

plus, the fords are running 3 and 4 valve heads now, too.

they also have cross-bolted mains and are capable of more hp WHILE STILL HOLDING TOGETHER (thats the key point).

oh, and the viper WISHES it was the gt! they arent even in the same leauge as each other!

and the firestone tire fiasco? what are you, special? yeah you better believe it was firestone's fault!

and engineering-wise, volvo had very little say in most of ford's deisgns.

so buddy, learn some **** before you talk ****

 

A good amsoil thread I keep in my favorties: why amsoil sucks! - ThumperTalk

It starts out cheesy, but gets good when Grayracer comes along a few pages in. Gray has to be one of the smartest guys engines-wise I've read on the net.

PS... Dodge trannies do suck! I've put 2 of em in my intrepid and it needs a 3rd currently. Other than that, love the car.

 

I have run Valvoline 10w40 ATV oil for years I can get it Autozone. Some of my Buddies use Rotella Synthetic 5W40. Its a diesel oil they have had zero problems there quads are all automatics no problems so far.