Quick question re: stator pickup coil
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Arctic Cat did use Suzuki engines,not sure if they still do,but this is where a service manual for your machine comes into play. It may not show all trouble shooting areas to check,plus as mentioned if it's an electrical short they can be troublesome,but no need of tearing an another atv engine down to try to find the problem on a different machine.. Get a good manual on ebay in pdf form or hard copy.
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I planned on keeping the plastic off until the problem is corrected, and again.. it is not a fuel problem.
To answer your question, as I believe I posted previously, it dies just as though I switched the ignition off.... no spit, no sputter. I put a brand new switch on the bike and it's still doing it. I'm thinking, if I can't find a wiring issue, that it has to be the CDI.. even though it tests good per the Suzuki Service Manual.
To answer your question, as I believe I posted previously, it dies just as though I switched the ignition off.... no spit, no sputter. I put a brand new switch on the bike and it's still doing it. I'm thinking, if I can't find a wiring issue, that it has to be the CDI.. even though it tests good per the Suzuki Service Manual.
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Faster.....I laughed out loud when I read this part of your reply. It's a bit colder outside than in my freezer. I've started this thing up at minus 14 this year, only to have it die a minute later. Then.. nothing! No spark.... UGH! (BTW, I keep a battery tender on it in the winter) Thanks for the laugh, Bud! :-)
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Faster.....I laughed out loud when I read this part of your reply. It's a bit colder outside than in my freezer. I've started this thing up at minus 14 this year, only to have it die a minute later. Then.. nothing! No spark.... UGH! (BTW, I keep a battery tender on it in the winter) Thanks for the laugh, Bud! :-)
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I've seen it a lot colder than -14 here in Northern NY (near the Canadian border)
I'm thinking it has to be the CDI. I did the opposite of what you suggested and aimed a heat gun at the CDI. The bike started right up and ran for about 5 minutes or so then died. I tried the heat again, but nothing. HHHmmmm. So, I tested the voltage going INTO the coil from the CDI and it was all over the place. From 15.8VDC down to .3VDC. This was just all over the place and almost impossible to read on the Digital multimeter. I'll run a few more tests, but I'm thinking I will bite the bullet and order a new CDI. Yes... No????
Any thoughts on this?
Jackie
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I'm thinking it has to be the CDI. I did the opposite of what you suggested and aimed a heat gun at the CDI. The bike started right up and ran for about 5 minutes or so then died. I tried the heat again, but nothing. HHHmmmm. So, I tested the voltage going INTO the coil from the CDI and it was all over the place. From 15.8VDC down to .3VDC. This was just all over the place and almost impossible to read on the Digital multimeter. I'll run a few more tests, but I'm thinking I will bite the bullet and order a new CDI. Yes... No????
Any thoughts on this?
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If those voltages were " all over the place " and the ATV wasn't running, then its your meter or you may not be getting a good ground. For me, when I check voltage, I clip the negative side of the meter directly to the negative side of the battery. Before I purchase a CDI ( just purchased one for a customer two weeks ago....was almost $300, 2001 Kodiak 400 ), I test every componant three times....yep, no kidding and I also try to wiggle the wires a little at each connector I'm testing. I'm never 100% confident when I order a CDI because I'm always worried if there is a broken/damaged wire somewhere. Having said that, a new CDI has "fixed" the spark issues every time ( after proving everything else was good ). Anyway, if you have metered ( resistance checks ) the coil, the seconday wire, the spark plug cap, ignition switch, kill switch, pulser, stator, checked/cleaned all connectors....and all is good, it should be the CDI.
Any thoughts on this?
Jackie[/QUOTE]
If those voltages were " all over the place " and the ATV wasn't running, then its your meter or you may not be getting a good ground. For me, when I check voltage, I clip the negative side of the meter directly to the negative side of the battery. Before I purchase a CDI ( just purchased one for a customer two weeks ago....was almost $300, 2001 Kodiak 400 ), I test every componant three times....yep, no kidding and I also try to wiggle the wires a little at each connector I'm testing. I'm never 100% confident when I order a CDI because I'm always worried if there is a broken/damaged wire somewhere. Having said that, a new CDI has "fixed" the spark issues every time ( after proving everything else was good ). Anyway, if you have metered ( resistance checks ) the coil, the seconday wire, the spark plug cap, ignition switch, kill switch, pulser, stator, checked/cleaned all connectors....and all is good, it should be the CDI.
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Okay guys... tomorrow I am going to have an assistant to help me with all this testing. I will check all the wiring, connections, and switches one more time Old Polaris, I will do what you suggested too to see if the kill circuit is at fault.
I will post tomorrow after all this is done to let you know what I have found.
Thank you BOTH for any and all suggestions you have given! :-)
Jackie
I will post tomorrow after all this is done to let you know what I have found.
Thank you BOTH for any and all suggestions you have given! :-)
Jackie
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I disabled the Kill switch and it didn't help. Gggrrrr!
I have given up.... I ordered a CDI for the bike. I found one at partzilla for $265 with free shipping, and it should be here in around 4 days. I am looking at it this way, if it works fine, and if not, I'll just keep swapping out parts until something makes this machine run. I can't afford a new one. Hell, I can't afford a used one, especially not knowing what kind of shape a used one is really in. I KNOW what my little Suzuki has done, and how well it's been taken care of since I purchased it new. Even if I put 1,000 dollars into it, it's better than what I can buy for $1000, right?
I'll let you know if I made the right decision in a few days!
Jackie (with fingers crossed)
I have given up.... I ordered a CDI for the bike. I found one at partzilla for $265 with free shipping, and it should be here in around 4 days. I am looking at it this way, if it works fine, and if not, I'll just keep swapping out parts until something makes this machine run. I can't afford a new one. Hell, I can't afford a used one, especially not knowing what kind of shape a used one is really in. I KNOW what my little Suzuki has done, and how well it's been taken care of since I purchased it new. Even if I put 1,000 dollars into it, it's better than what I can buy for $1000, right?
I'll let you know if I made the right decision in a few days!
Jackie (with fingers crossed)