Zsandman.
Ditto, you have a good point. The reason it sounds like a bunch of 12 year olds, is because there are alot of 12 year olds on these forums. But I agree with you, we need to respect all well built bikes and just be happy there is more than one choice out there.
peace!

 

I personally bought a Z to ride on trails in the woods. I have yet to see a Craptor make it through a full day of riding and not have something wrong with it. They seem to be too much for the woods. I guess if I was going to be drag racing in the sand I might have thought about a raptor. Ok Ok so you can beat a Z in a drag race that is just one part of riding a quad, now maybe you can perfect your riding on the beginner mx track.

Balzak
2003 Z400
1998 Yamaha Warrior (modded)
2000 Polaris 400 2x4 more mods than I can talk about without excessive amounts of alcohol(for sale)

 

I have been reading the posts and kinda makes me laugh. I bet if race my buddies new Z400 with my 02 Warrior and he wins (which is not a suprise to me) he won't be on hear saying I beat a Warrior today. That kinda seems like kid stuff.

The Z400 is cool. My friend just picked one up for his wife. He does ride the 660 Raptor. He rode both this last weekend. HE like the Z400 alot but he still like the Raptor alot. Their is no perfect machine for everyone. Each machine has some better features. Like my Warrior is fairly cheap and has proven tract record. The Raptor is plenty fast and powerful. The EX400 is agile and is arguably the best handling machine ever built. The new Z400 is light and luquid cooled, good power for the size. They are are cool. I don't have anything bad to say about any machine but I like my smaller sized fee of my Warrior. I just feel more in control but that don't mean the others are bad.

 

Only a comment.....

Here Raptor, raptor, raptor.... come here girl... yea, thats it.. come on, its only 500cc of Suzuki...



Substitute Banshee for Raptor above, same outcome.......




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Just remember LTZ400 owners, the Zilla's still got your back if need be!!!

 

BINFORDW----Your obviously the STUPID F*CK for responding to that. Who expected the raptor to get beat by a Z? Nobody. Everyone knew before they raced that the raptor would out run the Z in a straight line. SO WHAT!!! Put them both on the track and see which one handles better or jumps better. The Z is going to prove to be one of the best overall quads today taking second only too the cannondales. Some of you guys get so defensive about stupid crap. Just ask Binford about the design of the chain adjustment on the Z and I think he'll cry like a little bitch. He got so offended when I said the chain adjustment is the same crappy design as on my 89 LTR. Obviously I am not the only person who thinks that is the case. Order a swingarm for any LTR and get one that fits the LT, but uses the honda design. However that is merely one piece of a really nice quad like the Z or the old LT's. Like on any quad we are all going to find specific things that could of been designed better, thats what aftermarket is for.

Stop being such a little bitch bifordw!

 

Truckracer -- Exactly! Great post.

 

Youre right, I am. I guess I need to start posting crap to start fights so I'll fit in better, huh?

 

I dont understand how your guys opinion can be so different that what I have heard in the real world. Every place I go to about the Z400 they claim it smokes the raptor. I also have a friend that works at a dealer and they raced the machines....z400 winning.

Lets see...raptor 35 horsepower and 30 pounds heavier
z400-33 horsepower...not even broke in.
I am guessing once the z400 is broke in it will make at least another horsepower or two.
Technically something 30 pounds heavier and with only one horsepower more can not win the drag race.
Only way to know is to have the same rider run a timed 1/8th mile that knows how to drive both machines well...then you get your answer.

 

Only a comment.....

Here Z400, Z400, Z400.... come here girl... yea, thats it.. come on, its only 350cc of Yamaha...



Substitute Z400 for LT500r above, same outcome

 

Dudes, just drop it. Blackwater was just trying to get you all up in arms and excited. He hasn't even responded. He doesn't tell true stories and just wants to **** off everyone in here.

Peace