yeah the first time i called them they quoted me 229 but i thought that was wrong since all of there pipe are 169 to 189. when i called them again the next day they told me 189. they are a great pipe for the money. they a low end to midrange pipe, like the dyno #'s they told me. seems everyone that has one for a 400ex likes it. i do hear they are a little loud but they sound good. one of the only drawbacks is they offer a quiet core insert but you cant use that and the spark arrestor at the same time [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]. kinda screws it for us in oregon who sometimes need quiet but have to have a spark arrestor

 

well looks like they misquoted me, the price is 229 for the pipe. that is bs they must be trying to make money off it since it is new. all the other pipes are 189. guess i might be going with someone else.

 

They did the same to me. I called them this morning and they told me $229, but Im getting it.

 

I've heard you can't run the spark arrestor & quiet core in a HMF either, but mine fit just fine....

 

Did the quiet core tone it down without loosing power?

 

I don't know. To tell you the truth I haven't rode it with it in. I heard before that the quiet core & spark arrestor wouldn't fit at the same time. So I just put them in to see. I never rode it like that. HMF told me it would lose about 20% power compared to wide open.

I know with the quiet core in my wifes Big Gun there is NO power gain over stock.