who has the fastest LT250/500?
#41
05-05-2003, 04:19 PM
#42
05-05-2003, 07:07 PM
who has the fastest LT250/500?
Study your history.... the original prototype LT's were nasty, and never made available to the general public.
The only reason i brung the 490cc dirtbike thing up is pretty simple since all those 500cc bike in stock trim would only hit around 85-90mph (of course you can change thier gearing and hit higher speeds) do you really beleive that with only minor mods like a pipe and a gear change you can get a much heavier vehicule, a much less aerodynamic vehicule etc. to hit 108mph...From what i have seen so far it takes "about" 70hp to be able to reach those speeds on pavement but all of this comes at a big cost, yes your ride hits 108mph but it now accelerates like an LT230...
Unless your bike makes at least 90rwhp dont even bother trying to hit those kinda speeds, if you dont beleive me then gear it accordingly take it to the drag strip run the 1/4 and see how badly you get your *** kicked.
This last paragraph wasnt directed at you Duneaddict as i dont recall you claiming to hit those kind of speeds and since i dont know anything about your Zilla i cant comment on it, it was directed at those who seems to think that reaching 108mph while retaining a great acceleration is as simple as putting a pipe and a bigger front sprocket on their ride...Not!!!!!
#43
05-06-2003, 12:22 PM
who has the fastest LT250/500?
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Originally posted by: Imback
The only reason i brung the 490cc dirtbike thing up is pretty simple since all those 500cc bike in stock trim would only hit around 85-90mph (of course you can change thier gearing and hit higher speeds) do you really beleive that with only minor mods like a pipe and a gear change you can get a much heavier vehicule, a much less aerodynamic vehicule etc. to hit 108mph...From what i have seen so far it takes "about" 70hp to be able to reach those speeds on pavement but all of this comes at a big cost, yes your ride hits 108mph but it now accelerates like an LT230...
Unless your bike makes at least 90rwhp dont even bother trying to hit those kinda speeds, if you dont beleive me then gear it accordingly take it to the drag strip run the 1/4 and see how badly you get your *** kicked.
This last paragraph wasnt directed at you Duneaddict as i dont recall you claiming to hit those kind of speeds and since i dont know anything about your Zilla i cant comment on it, it was directed at those who seems to think that reaching 108mph while retaining a great acceleration is as simple as putting a pipe and a bigger front sprocket on their ride...Not!!!!!
No offense taken.. I was merely pointing out the need for accuracy in the posts... there's alot of folks that read this forum, and the info needs to be as valid and accurate as possible.
Do I believe that 'minor' mods will make a quad run that fast??? NO. I'm saying Suzuki did MAJOR de-tuning from the original prototype. Look at the HP output of the big bore bikes of the mid-late 80's... CR500 comes to mind... they had much more power than the measely 50 reported on the LT500.. It's pretty obvious that there is a bunch more potential in that motor that the factory didn't let us have.
We're not talking some gearing adjustment and a pipe here...
Besides, Who would ever want to ride a quad that fast anyhow?? Mine's set-up to go very fast in a short distance.. I hardly ever get over 60!
You're absolutely right about merely changing to a higher gear ratio... It might run pretty fast, but your acceleration will suffer horribly.
Originally posted by: Imback
The only reason i brung the 490cc dirtbike thing up is pretty simple since all those 500cc bike in stock trim would only hit around 85-90mph (of course you can change thier gearing and hit higher speeds) do you really beleive that with only minor mods like a pipe and a gear change you can get a much heavier vehicule, a much less aerodynamic vehicule etc. to hit 108mph...From what i have seen so far it takes "about" 70hp to be able to reach those speeds on pavement but all of this comes at a big cost, yes your ride hits 108mph but it now accelerates like an LT230...
Unless your bike makes at least 90rwhp dont even bother trying to hit those kinda speeds, if you dont beleive me then gear it accordingly take it to the drag strip run the 1/4 and see how badly you get your *** kicked.
This last paragraph wasnt directed at you Duneaddict as i dont recall you claiming to hit those kind of speeds and since i dont know anything about your Zilla i cant comment on it, it was directed at those who seems to think that reaching 108mph while retaining a great acceleration is as simple as putting a pipe and a bigger front sprocket on their ride...Not!!!!!
No offense taken.. I was merely pointing out the need for accuracy in the posts... there's alot of folks that read this forum, and the info needs to be as valid and accurate as possible.
Do I believe that 'minor' mods will make a quad run that fast??? NO. I'm saying Suzuki did MAJOR de-tuning from the original prototype. Look at the HP output of the big bore bikes of the mid-late 80's... CR500 comes to mind... they had much more power than the measely 50 reported on the LT500.. It's pretty obvious that there is a bunch more potential in that motor that the factory didn't let us have.
We're not talking some gearing adjustment and a pipe here...
Besides, Who would ever want to ride a quad that fast anyhow?? Mine's set-up to go very fast in a short distance.. I hardly ever get over 60!
You're absolutely right about merely changing to a higher gear ratio... It might run pretty fast, but your acceleration will suffer horribly.
#44
05-06-2003, 05:23 PM
#47
05-07-2003, 07:46 PM
who has the fastest LT250/500?
You shouldn't stereotype....but you're right most are slow Dabeech... In stock form (Or modified without a clue) they are a turd!!
But mine doesn't fit that description... If done right, and put on a diet... the mighty 500 will surprise you.
There are many folks out there just doing hack and slash port grinding and calling that a wicked motor build.... WRONG!
I always enjoy it when the underdog whips up on the bad boys... that's why I tune on the old Zuk.... I like being the underdog.
75 reliable horsepower is easily obtainable if one knows what they are doing... the rest is a weight game. The old power to weight ratio comes into play.
But mine doesn't fit that description... If done right, and put on a diet... the mighty 500 will surprise you.
There are many folks out there just doing hack and slash port grinding and calling that a wicked motor build.... WRONG!
I always enjoy it when the underdog whips up on the bad boys... that's why I tune on the old Zuk.... I like being the underdog.
75 reliable horsepower is easily obtainable if one knows what they are doing... the rest is a weight game. The old power to weight ratio comes into play.
#48
05-07-2003, 09:34 PM
#49
05-08-2003, 12:23 PM
#50
05-09-2003, 04:16 PM
who has the fastest LT250/500?
Dependable 75 HP from 500cc? My flat track banshee is stock rod, .020 over, FTZ ported (not the most radical portjob by any means), and is making around 70HP (estimated judging from friends bikes who have dynoed). I am at only 150lb compression. I feel low to mid 70's is easily attainable with more compression and good tuning. This is still out of a 350cc machine. This is a VERY dependable combination and is constantly over-reved on every straightaway. Most drag motors are shifted sooner and never see the RPM's flat track engines see.