Diesel Ford vs V10 gas engine
Apr 17, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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Hi All
Not true look at a f350, f450 and f550 on the ford commercial site the 6.0 will out do a v10 by 4000lb.That said he needs to go drive both and see what he likes.
And if you want to get technical, the V-10 with 4.30 gears, actually has a HIGHER towing capacity than the 6.0L in every model
Apr 17, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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i know for a fact that my bro-inlaw drives a dodge cummings for his business and pulls a 3 place horse trailer complete with a full camper in front and he gets 20 plus mpg with what ever he pulls . on my next truck purchase it will be a diesel ,no questions asked .
Apr 24, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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have an automatic 2001 F350 4WD crew cab dually diesel w/chip and 4" SS exhaust and 3.73 rear end. It was 250 hp stock and now is 350, according to the shop. It is a hot rod unloaded. Depending on the wind, speed and terrain, I have gotten anywhere from 14.something mpg to 21.something mpg, but usually it is in the 16.something range. With a high slide in camper, I'll get 11 to 14, depending on the wind. With a 36' very high 5th wheel with double slides, I'll get 10 to 11. Other than with the slide in, the other figures are before the recent addition of the 4" exhaust. On a January trip to Colorado from Missouri, got 11.something at 70 mph across Kansas, 13.something round trip from Denver to Steamboat, and 14.3 from Denver to Goodland, KS. The truck is wonderful.
My local diesel shop (that added the chip and exhaust) says that the 7.3 is vastly superior to the 6.0 and that the hp and torque ratings aren't comparable, since the 6.0's were rated at a much higher rpm. He owns both a 6.0 and a 7.3 himself, and said that Ford came out with the 6.0 only because their 7.3 couldn't meet new emission requirements and it was just a marketing scam to indicate inflated hp and torque ratings in order to sell them.
Get a crew cab if you might haul 4-6 people or 2 people and lots of gear. The dually really adds to the stability of the towing platform and is a safety feature. This past summer I towed my fiver to South Carolina and a week or so after returning a buddy noticed one of my inside tires in the rear was flat. Turned out, I had a sidewall blow out on the way home and I didn't even know it. Had I had single rear wheels, it would have been an accident for sure. On the other hand, duallys get a couple of mpg's worse and single rear wheels.
Diesels have a certain mystique, a wonderful sound. Get a K & N air filter that can be cleaned, not replaced. Oil filters and fuel filters are reasonably priced.
All in all, a Ford 7.3 super duty diesel is a wonderful truck that I really like.
My local diesel shop (that added the chip and exhaust) says that the 7.3 is vastly superior to the 6.0 and that the hp and torque ratings aren't comparable, since the 6.0's were rated at a much higher rpm. He owns both a 6.0 and a 7.3 himself, and said that Ford came out with the 6.0 only because their 7.3 couldn't meet new emission requirements and it was just a marketing scam to indicate inflated hp and torque ratings in order to sell them.
Get a crew cab if you might haul 4-6 people or 2 people and lots of gear. The dually really adds to the stability of the towing platform and is a safety feature. This past summer I towed my fiver to South Carolina and a week or so after returning a buddy noticed one of my inside tires in the rear was flat. Turned out, I had a sidewall blow out on the way home and I didn't even know it. Had I had single rear wheels, it would have been an accident for sure. On the other hand, duallys get a couple of mpg's worse and single rear wheels.
Diesels have a certain mystique, a wonderful sound. Get a K & N air filter that can be cleaned, not replaced. Oil filters and fuel filters are reasonably priced.
All in all, a Ford 7.3 super duty diesel is a wonderful truck that I really like.
Apr 27, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by: QUADROOKIE
The only way the Diesel is the smarter choice is one of three.....
1.) If you have more money than brains, and wanna look "cool"
2.) You tow VERY heavy weights, VERY often, or through EXTREMLY hilly terrain
3.)You plan to keep the truck for say 150,000-200,00 miles or more
The V-10 will tow just as much weight, allbeit at worse gas milage, but not THAT much worse, AND, maintenance and reliability will be very much in your favor.
P.S. To whoever it was that said their Diesel is getting 20 MPG.......all I can say to that is, you better sell that thing, cause there are about 10 million truck owners who would be willing to pay a nice amount for that truck!! That is absolutely obsurd!!!!
The only way the Diesel is the smarter choice is one of three.....
1.) If you have more money than brains, and wanna look "cool"
2.) You tow VERY heavy weights, VERY often, or through EXTREMLY hilly terrain
3.)You plan to keep the truck for say 150,000-200,00 miles or more
The V-10 will tow just as much weight, allbeit at worse gas milage, but not THAT much worse, AND, maintenance and reliability will be very much in your favor.
P.S. To whoever it was that said their Diesel is getting 20 MPG.......all I can say to that is, you better sell that thing, cause there are about 10 million truck owners who would be willing to pay a nice amount for that truck!! That is absolutely obsurd!!!!
By the way, I will never go back to a gas engine for a main vehicle. Once you count in the resale value it does not take that long to justify buying a diesel. BTW my cousin has an 03' supercab with the v10 and when it comes to pulling.....give me a break, it is not even CLOSE.
Apr 28, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Now that the NEW diesels are a lot quieter, I can really find any advantage of owning a gas burner 3/4 ton(or larger) truck.
My brother just bought a brand new Ford 6.0 XLT crew cab for $30,000. Heck I paid 32,000 for my wifes 04' super crew lariat, and HE gets better gas mileage than I do.LOL.
Not to mention that you can gain SO MUCH MORE power on a diesel engine for only a few hundred dollars. I wish they would start making smaller dissplacment deisels for the half-ton trucks!
Bigger.
My brother just bought a brand new Ford 6.0 XLT crew cab for $30,000. Heck I paid 32,000 for my wifes 04' super crew lariat, and HE gets better gas mileage than I do.LOL.
Not to mention that you can gain SO MUCH MORE power on a diesel engine for only a few hundred dollars. I wish they would start making smaller dissplacment deisels for the half-ton trucks!
Bigger.
Apr 28, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by: biggerisbetter
Now that the NEW diesels are a lot quieter, I can really find any advantage of owning a gas burner 3/4 ton(or larger) truck.
My brother just bought a brand new Ford 6.0 XLT crew cab for $30,000. Heck I paid 32,000 for my wifes 04' super crew lariat, and HE gets better gas mileage than I do.LOL.
Not to mention that you can gain SO MUCH MORE power on a diesel engine for only a few hundred dollars. I wish they would start making smaller dissplacment deisels for the half-ton trucks!
Bigger.
Now that the NEW diesels are a lot quieter, I can really find any advantage of owning a gas burner 3/4 ton(or larger) truck.
My brother just bought a brand new Ford 6.0 XLT crew cab for $30,000. Heck I paid 32,000 for my wifes 04' super crew lariat, and HE gets better gas mileage than I do.LOL.
Not to mention that you can gain SO MUCH MORE power on a diesel engine for only a few hundred dollars. I wish they would start making smaller dissplacment deisels for the half-ton trucks!
Bigger.
