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Old Apr 8, 2018 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Zrock
Things must be different down in your area.. From Alberta to BC you can barley buy a new truck from the dealer without a 4-8 inch lift dealer installed. Everybody drives em.

That dodge looked pretty good i would go take a look at it and go from their check the steering and suspension over, fluids if possible. Most of the steering components will be stock and easy to get, Extended brake lines are easy to find most parts stores have em. Crawl around underneath and look for signs of mud bogging any closed space may still have signs of mud packed in like the boxed areas of the frame. Check around steering box for cracks big tires put extra stress on that area, again another easy fix as they make a repair plate for that you can weld in. Dodge is a good veh to lift as they are one of the only ones still running a solid front axle in those trucks.

Just remember Lift with big tire = poor fuel econ and faster steering and suspension component wear. But if thats what u want have fun with it thats what trucks are made for.... fun...

Thanks for the info and suggestions on what to check. Are older dodge trucks fairly reliable?
 
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Old Apr 8, 2018 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Zrock
Things must be different down in your area.. From Alberta to BC you can barley buy a new truck from the dealer without a 4-8 inch lift dealer installed. Everybody drives em.
Things sure are different here. I've never seen a dealer that had any lifted new trucks on the lot at all. It voids the warranty. Nobody sells them and hardly anyone lifts them after they buy it.

ETA: I live in a city with some parking ramps that I park my truck in, but if it was lifted like the truck in the ad, it would be too tall to go in the parking ramp. I would have to park somewhere else and walk.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2018 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jumbofrank
Things sure are different here. I've never seen a dealer that had any lifted new trucks on the lot at all. It voids the warranty. Nobody sells them and hardly anyone lifts them after they buy it.

ETA: I live in a city with some parking ramps that I park my truck in, but if it was lifted like the truck in the ad, it would be too tall to go in the parking ramp. I would have to park somewhere else and walk.
Thats kind of funny how different things are in different areas. I live more in the country and will Neve really have to worry about parking ramps
 
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Old Apr 9, 2018 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by YamahaMoto
Thats kind of funny how different things are in different areas. I live more in the country and will Neve really have to worry about parking ramps
LOL for sure eh..

Just a FYI a lift cannot void warranty especially a dealer installed lift. Non dealer installed may not cover steering components due to additional wear but usually those components are not covered anyway as they are considered a wear and tear item. A dealer cannot void warranty over any aftermarket installed item unless they can prove 100% that it caused the issue and that not easy for them to do..
 
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Old Apr 9, 2018 | 02:40 PM
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Most, if not all, auto manufacturers say, “Warranty shall not apply to any failure directly related to the installation and operation of non-OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) parts or equipment.” And just because something is installed by a dealer doesn't mean it won't void your warranty. The dealer isn't the manufacturer and can't decide what the manufacturer's warranty will cover.

Some people have had warranties voided for lift kits and other things too. A bunch of people were blowing head gaskets on Fords with the 6.0L Powerstroke turbo diesel engine. When Ford found out they all had aftermarket power chips, the warranty claims were all denied, and the engine warranties were forever voided.

Here's guy who voided his warranty with a dealer installed lift kit.

https://www.torquenews.com/3768/why-...inst-lift-kits

Here's another guy whose factory powertrain warranty was voided after he had a lift kit "professionally installed'. He said he knew it voided the manufacturers warranty, and they didn't cover his $2,000 repair bill when his differential blew up. The company that sold him the lift kit decided to cover it, but only after a TV station investigated.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/some-modi...anty-1.2770166

Lift kits can void your vehicle manufacturer's warranty, in the U.S. and in Canada, no matter who installed it, because it wasn't factory installed.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2018 | 02:48 PM
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The key words "directly related" they have to prove the mod caused the failure. I have worked in the service dept of vw, gm, and Ford and know for a fact they have to prove it... I can also find lots of links of people suing to have warranty work honored and won. Any dealer that refuses are just taking advantage of the customer. Iv had warranty on engine related issues and was chipped. They tried to screw me untill I told them to prove it. They said they could not and j told them they had to warranty it
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 08:51 AM
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I have a 6" lift on my 2012 Ram and I had some things covered under warranty. I installed the lift myself, but I'm an auto tech.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 01:30 PM
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Gm has the new High Country models I think they're called with a factory installed lift. Ford still makes the Raptor and Ram has the Power Wagon and Rebel models. All of these cost a premium over a standard new 4x4 truck though but they all come lifted straight from the dealer. I have no need for a lift, I don't take my truck anywhere I would need it. I couldnt imagine taking a newer truck offroad anyway, I'd hate to scratch and dent something that expensive. If I want to actually go offroad, that's what the atv is for. I probably will get some more aggressive tires in stock size soon though, those firestone destination LEs that is has on it now will spin in wet grass. Im sure they last forever but are terrible tires for anything but pavement. They're soccer mom suv tires at best.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by greg74
Gm has the new High Country models I think they're called with a factory installed lift. Ford still makes the Raptor and Ram has the Power Wagon and Rebel models. All of these cost a premium over a standard new 4x4 truck though but they all come lifted straight from the dealer. I have no need for a lift, I don't take my truck anywhere I would need it. I couldnt imagine taking a newer truck offroad anyway, I'd hate to scratch and dent something that expensive. If I want to actually go offroad, that's what the atv is for. I probably will get some more aggressive tires in stock size soon though, those firestone destination LEs that is has on it now will spin in wet grass. Im sure they last forever but are terrible tires for anything but pavement. They're soccer mom suv tires at best.
At least half of the lifted trucks are just lifted for looks rather than off road. That is true that some of those trucks come lifted. However, I'm looking for a "first" vehicle. I don't have very much money too spend
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by greg74
Gm has the new High Country models I think they're called with a factory installed lift. Ford still makes the Raptor and Ram has the Power Wagon and Rebel models. All of these cost a premium over a standard new 4x4 truck though but they all come lifted straight from the dealer. I have no need for a lift, I don't take my truck anywhere I would need it. I couldnt imagine taking a newer truck offroad anyway, I'd hate to scratch and dent something that expensive. If I want to actually go offroad, that's what the atv is for. I probably will get some more aggressive tires in stock size soon though, those firestone destination LEs that is has on it now will spin in wet grass. Im sure they last forever but are terrible tires for anything but pavement. They're soccer mom suv tires at best.
I looked at a Silverado High Country and a High Country with the Deluxe package online, and neither one of them looks like it's lifted. I didn't see any side by side pictures of those and anything else to compare them with. You get 22" wheels and low profile street tires on the Deluxe. The regular High Country has 20" wheels standard. Neither is made for off road, but if they came from the factory lifted they would be covered. I quit using my truck for off roading when I got mt first ATV. It's a lot cheaper to fix or replace an ATV than a truck that may cost around $70,000 with all the options.
 
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