you are right it is the meth junkie that scares everyone but because you take the guns away from everyone that means that the responsible people like the hunters won't have guns or the people who are responsible and wanna protect their home and family and have them in a safe location where nobody else can get to them. the only people who will have guns are the criminals no matter where they live they can get their hands on guns and not only a hunting gun but assault rifles. i dunno bout you guys but i like living in the states where i can have a gun on me and well i guess in the area where i live there isn't much violence and i am thankful for that but where i live every person has a bunch of guns i think between my dad and i we have about 25.

 

Yeah I have uregistered guns and can get more jail time for that than a crackhead robbing a 7-11 with a knife! I also have a 1 yr old pitbull that has to be walked with a muzzle, micro chipped and if it gets loose and kills the nieghbors cat I can get a $10,000 fine,go figure! If anything my wife is the weapon thieves and the public should be worried about!!LOL She'd nag em to death!!! I posted last year sometime about my nephew catching some a$$holes breakin into his shop after some quads and he did a number on them! The post was called"Of thieves and a fierce Panda" or something, if you find it the post is worth the read. I looked and the post is still around, if I knew how to slave it this post I would.

 

QUOTE by Bluethumb: I don't believe guns in the hands of people makes a place safer.


Actually, it does. Even in our own country, cities that are the most anti-gun (D.C., New York, etc) have the highest crime rates. This is why crime has sky-rocketed in Canada, Britain, Australia, South Africa, etc, etc. Few people know or will admit to it, but little tiny Wales has the most violence anywhere in the west.

 

Handguns are banned here to carry around up here, unless you're a trapper, or cop. You can own one, but you must belong to a shooting club, you have to call the cops, tell them that you're leaving your residence with it, what route you are taking to get there and same on return trip. Another thing, you cannot carry ammo with you, that has to remain at the range. How's that for restrictive laws? On the other hand, I could probably go to down town T.O. and buy a .45 Glock for 3-400 Canadian. Lotta good the registry did huh? You can carry a rifle, only during hunting season, and it can't be loaded until you intend to shoot something.
I understand your perspective on things Deedawg, but still don't agree. The crime rate probably went down because the lowlifes are killing each other off. Violent crime has increased here in the big cities due to the availability of handguns on the black market, and the people that are willing to use them. Same as in every country. They can ban them all they want here, the politicians have their heads firmly buried in the sand if they think it'll make a difference in criminal activity. I must admit, there are times when I wish we could carry, it would at the very least deter people from trying to rob people.

 

ok 1 who cares if the lowlifes kill each other off really? ok that makes me sound heartless but it is true and 2 you admit it to on the black market they can get any guns they want to the only thing harsher gun laws prohibit is responsible people from owning them.

 

DeeDawg, where are you getting those numbers. I did a simple google search and found that all violent crime: murder, rape, robbery, etc. is simply lower per capita in Canada as opposed to the U.S. Especially lower in Quebec. I was shocked to find Louisiana at number one in per capita murder in the US. I didn't look at the UK and Austrailia, but have heard the same thing you have about a crime increase of 40+% and climbing.

For those that think you can't subvert criminal intent by being armed, you are just plain silly.

 

Ease up a bit DavidLT250S, I believe you.

Kenora, I amazed at how the French Canadians can have a "superior" aire about them since they were English boot-lickers. The really superior French, Acadians, had refused to submit and had to relocate along the gulf coast.

 

If your a criminal, you arent going to think twice about mugging someone with a 357 magnum in his pants or her purse? If not, than your the silly one!

 

QUOTE by Slinger: DeeDawg, where are you getting those numbers. I did a simple google search and found that all violent crime: murder, rape, robbery, etc. is simply lower per capita in Canada as opposed to the U.S



Here are just a few examples. If you need several hundred more I can get them....just do a "simple google search"

http://washingtontimes.com/national/...1824-9843r.htm

http://www.nraila.org/media/misc/fables.html

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=78

From 1978 to 1988, Canada`s burglary rate increased 25%, surpassing the U.S. rate. Half of burglaries in Canada are of occupied homes, compared to only 10% in the U.S. From 1976 to 1980, ethnically and economically similar areas of the U.S. and Canada had virtually identical homicide rates, despite significantly different firearm laws….In Canada a dramatic increase in the percentage of handguns used in all homicides was reported during a period in which handguns were most strictly regulated. And in strictly regulated Germany, gun-related crime is much higher than in countries such as Switzerland and Israel, that have simpler and/or less restrictive legislation.

In Japan, rifles and handguns are prohibited; shotguns are very strictly regulated. Japan`s Olympic shooters have had to practice out of the country because of their country`s gun laws. Yet, crime has been rising for about the last 15 years and the number of shooting crimes more than doubled between 1997-1998. Organized crime is on the rise. Mostly without firearms, Japan`s suicide rate is at a record high, about 90 per day.

U.S. crime trends have been better than those in countries with restrictive firearms laws. Since 1991, with what HCI calls "weak gun laws" (Sarah Brady, "Our Country`s Claim to Shame," 5/5/97), the number of privately owned firearms has risen by perhaps 50 million. Americans bought 37 million new firearms in the 1993-1999 time frame alone. (BATF, Crime Gun Trace Reports, 1999, National Report, 11/00.) Meanwhile, America`s violent crime rate has decreased every year and is now at a 23- year low (FBI). In addition to Japan, other restrictive countries have experienced increases in crime:

In 1995 the English robbery rate was 1.4 times higher than America`s. . . . the English assault rate was more than double America`s. A June 2000 CBS News report proclaimed Great Britain `one of the most violent urban societies in the Western world. Street crime increased 47% between 1999 and 2000.

Germany -- Described in the Library of Congress report as "among the most stringent in Europe," Germany`s laws are almost as restrictive as those which HCI wants imposed in the U.S. Licenses are required to buy or own a firearm, and to get a license a German must prove his or her "need" and pass a government test. Different licenses are required for hunters, recreational shooters, and collectors. As is the case in Washington, D.C., it is illegal to have a gun ready for defensive use in your own home. Before being allowed to have a firearm for protection, a German must again prove "need." Yet the annual number of firearm-related murders in Germany rose 76% between 1992-1995.

Italy`s gun law, `the most restrictive in Europe,` had left her southern provinces alone with a thousand firearm murders a year, thirty times Switzerland`s total

 

When I did a google search I found that Quebec provice was among the safest and one of the top ten places to live within Canada.