Sorry, should be more clear, the Buick is a lesaber, mid 90's I think, 96 or 97. THe Capri is a 1991 XR2. Bot of the cars have EFI, the buick is the 3.8 and my Capri is a 1.6.

 

I would rather have my AC H1 on a steep hill then my TRX 200. The TRX has 4.7 inches of ground clearance, compared to the 1 foot on the H1. Look at my picture #11 to see the size difference of these machines, but to me the Cat is very stable. Espicially when you add the sway bar.

 

The way I read this thread, the discussion was between the 400 Outlander and the Cats. As far as between your TRX and your Cat, you also have to look at wheel base in addition to CG. Most any discussion or magazine articles about climbing steep hills always puts the low CG machine at an advantage. Seems to me that is pretty much common sense.
Bryce

 

What ever you do, don't get a Polaris, you will be nominated to pull everyone up the hill. Actually, it's how you use your quad and your skill that determines what you can do. I've seen guys on 350 hondas do some pretty incredible things. I know with my heavy beast, I'm not good enough to use my quad to it's full potential, yet. Find one that fits you best.

 

Im not saying a lower machine wont do better. Im pointing out that it seems an outty will do everything better than anyone elses quad, and its bullsh*t.

 

Couldnt agree more!

Go with the griz. Just watch out 4 the aftermarket rimz/rubber. The griz has problems stayin in 1 piece.

 

Im not saying a lower machine wont do better. Im pointing out that it seems an outty will do everything better than anyone elses quad, and its bullsh*t.
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Relaaaaaaax, I don't think thats what is being said at all. Some quads are better at some things then others, your AC with more ground clearance will go over rocks, ruts etc probably better then the Outlander I'm saying from personal experience my former Outlander 330 would go ANYWHERE anyone elses quad would go but just not as quickly, I drove it through mud where I was floating in it and water holes where I though "OH MAN, I BLEW IT" yet came through the other side...wouldn't of done it again but was pleased my machine made it through with no problems.

 

Oh. OK. Sorry i blew up. I guess i got all defensive and stuff! lol. Carry on.

 

Your thread is screaming Kodiak 450 rfcom


It will outdo the Outty 400 in just about every catagory (I watched the promo BRP put on and the Kodiak was a clear winner, even they admitted it the rest was BS and hype)


You get a dependable Locker that is true and on 100% positive instead of that hyped up viscolok (jelly-lock) crap. If your rock crawling you don't wanna teeter back and forth trying to get the damm front locked in while your in 3 wheel drive, then soon as you let off the power it goes right back to 3 wheel drive again CRAP!

You get a very low center of gravity and great ground clearance and a light weight powerful machine for the midrange class. The Kodiak killed the Outty 400 in the sled pull competition so eat that Outty lovers!

Also with the Kodiak you get multiple braking options instead of a single lever. Sure a single lever will stop you on a groomed trail but if your sliding off a rocky mountian you want to control the brakes seperatly.




I think from what you asked the Kodiak 450 is worth a look. They are a proven machine..Don't let all the hype of newer machines blind you, they are made for the masses and thus are easy to ride on groomed trails. But for someone who demands more you need a machine that is built for work. heck look at half the posts on here they reccomend old machines.

 

You obviously haven't had much experience on one to make statements like that, or are in denial.

Sorry the only place the Kodiak beat the Outlander was in the sled pull and just barely (like 4 ft. it jumped out the hole a tad quicker and stayed there). The Kodiak has more bottom end but the Outlander has more mid and top, it out dragged it on roll the on and from standing starts every time. Look at the vid again. The Outlander beat it in every other category including handling. Also look at all the mags that compared the two, same results the Outlander won all the shootouts. One magazine even had a specific test on hill climbing the Outlander beat it to the top every time.

The one lever braking does not mean you cannot control the brakes separately; the rears are a foot brake only while the hand brake is 60% front 40% rear. Fact they will stop quicker and with more control than the Kodiak. They can be converted if that is your preference but remember the GNCC racers on Outlanders haven't switched to one lever braking except one racer.

The Outlander 400 was the only below 700cc machine that took a top three finish in GNCC last year (at Unadilla) that’s quite impressive since it's racing against 800's, 750's, 700's and 650's. In GNCC's there is many hill climbs.

The Kodiak is a great machine but wait till Yamaha releases it's 2007's. I think the new EFI Grizz will be a winner if my dealer friend’s rumors are correct.

The Outlander is not the best in every category but the post was specific about mountain climbing and IMO and the mags the Outty's win.