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Old 04-24-2007, 11:54 PM
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A Sportsman has the upper hand in towing because of the extra weight, but the Grizzly can still do a lot of work. I abuse my 660 Grizzly by dragging logs that far exceed it's rated towing capacity and it does just fine. I also plow snow with it, I have a 60" Moose plow and it pushes snow like it isn't even there. Since I still have my 660 I reserve all of the hard work for it and my 700 is mostly used for recreational trail riding...
 
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by: 700vtwinman
Here is my thoughs:

POWER: sp800 puts out 54hp at the motor and griz700 49hp at the motor
TOP SPEED: Both should run about 70mph
QUICKETS TO TOP SPEED: probably close but sp800 will get there faster
STEERING: Equal. Even though the new griz700 has the EPS, the sportsmans have been the best riding and steering atv for many years.
TIGHT TRAIL RIDING: Griz700 should take this b/c of the lighter weight
TOWING: The griz700 should have plenty of power to tow whatever you need, however the sp800 should win hands down here b/c of the weight and more hp.
MUDDING: Both should be equal
REALIABILITY: Yamaha might have an edge, however polaris has come a long way and to judge something from only the past is being narrown minded. I have heard of great things with polaris and not so great. Just pick you quad brand and don't bash others b/c each manufacture will have a few lemons, even honda.
4WD SYSTEMS: polaris AWD is great and easy to use. Yamaha's front diff locker is very good too. This is just a personal preference b/c both will lock the front in and not leave you stranded with 3 wheel drive.
CVT: Polaris was the one to set the standard and has refinded theirs to be bullet proof. However, I think the yamaha system might be the best currently out there b/c how the cluth engauges.
WEIGHT: This all depends on what is your main riding style and what you will used the atv for. If more for utility, go with the sp800 and if more for the sport/utility side, go with the griz700. Both will do utility work and sport/utilty riding very good. The sp800 suspension is so good that you don't realize it is heavy. Only when you get stuck is when you notice the weight of the machine, but having a 2.5 or greater winch solves that.

The griz700 seems to be a great machine and the sp800 has a proven record. To me, it really just comes down to what is your main use. GO GET SOME SEAT TIME ON BOTH. That is your best test.
SP 800 DOES NOT have 54 hp A BF 750 is 50.2 an Outy 800 is 62 HP even the Outy comercial says 25% more HP than a BF and 28% more than a SP 800 your looking at less than 50 horse on a SP 800!
 
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You are correct. The Polaris Sportsman 800 does not have 54 hp. It actually has 54.8 hp @ 6000 RPM. I think 700vtwinman felt it was sufficient to leave out the .8, however I have included it on his behalf [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Don't know where you get your figures from.



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@ Nogotie

You are correct. The Polaris Sportsman 800 does not have 54 hp. It actually has 54.8 hp @ 6000 RPM. I think 700vtwinman felt it was sufficient to leave out the .8, however I have included it on his behalf [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Don't know where you get your figures from.



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Thanks for the help....LOL. Yes, I didn't figure that 0.8hp would make that much a difference. the bottom line is each manufacture will make their figures better than others and if you do the math, the polaris 800 and kawie bf750 are less than 25% away from the "62hp" of the outy800.

And, I have had two dealers show me where the polaris 800 is 54.8hp and the kawie bf750 is 54.0, so who you gonna believe? If you say the polaris numbers is right, then the outy numbers are wrong. If you say the outy numbers are right, then the polaris and kawie numbers are wrong. Both can't be right if their numbers don't agree. AND, every manufacture says they have their numbers varified by a "3rd party." To get the true numbers, have 3 independent "3rd parties" do independent test without any manufacture's influence.

Remember, FIGURES CAN LIE AND LIARS CAN FIGURE.

WHO REALLY CARES....EVERYONE JUST RIDE WHAT YOU LIKE.
 
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:59 AM
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I still dont believr that polaris push rod 760cc engine is 54.8 HP And Kawasaki says BF 750 has 50.2 with overhead cams! I will never beleive a polaris dealer telling me an 800 SP has 54.8 hp stock SORRY! Even the Polaris dealer hear says it around 45 My cuz has a 07 800 and took it to the scales 901 lbs with a half a tank of gas so I think Pol. is fudging some numbers there also... somebody on this site a few months ago posted the EPA tests for ATV horse power but I cant remember who.......
 
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Originally posted by: Nogotie
I still dont believr that polaris push rod 760cc engine is 54.8 HP And Kawasaki says BF 750 has 50.2 with overhead cams! I will never beleive a polaris dealer telling me an 800 SP has 54.8 hp stock SORRY! Even the Polaris dealer hear says it around 45 My cuz has a 07 800 and took it to the scales 901 lbs with a half a tank of gas so I think Pol. is fudging some numbers there also... somebody on this site a few months ago posted the EPA tests for ATV horse power but I cant remember who.......
So, how do you know Can-Am is not "fudging numbers????" If you decide to believe one and not the other just because, then both beliefs could be false. You believe what you want. It is like someone standing on a railroad track and hearing the train whistle behind you, but you believe that the oncoming train won't hit you. You have the right to believe that, however it doesn't change the fact that the train is about to hit you.

I challenge you to get a 3rd party to do a complete independent evaluation of each quad for HP. But, that would mean you would have to pay for it and since that would be expensive, you probably won't. I wouldn't either because it doesn't matter to me. So, that leaves us to believe each manufacture's data. Thus you must believe all or none, you can't just pick and choose w/o being bias.

As far as "PUSH ROD" motors having less HP, what about the Dodge Hemi motors from the 1970's?????? The made massive HP. So that doesn't hold water. There are enough people out there that know the outy800 makes ~62hp, the polaris800 makes ~54.8 and the BF750 makes ~54. But if you want to switch the numbers of the polaris 800 to be 45 and make the bf750 to be 50.4, that is your choice.

How about not making a "big deal" of the HP and ride what you like and let other ride what they like?????? Hmmmmm, now that is a great idea....LOL.
 
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The all talk about this BS. Polaris is heavy weight true hp at 54.8. Kawi is light weight true at 50.2 hp. I don't beliver you talk about a sportsman 800 hp 45 is wrong.
Check out at web for look bottom.

http://www.aaenpeformance.com/Power800.asp
 
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Originally posted by: waltondamron
The all talk about this BS. Polaris is heavy weight true hp at 54.8. Kawi is light weight true at 50.2 hp. I don't beliver you talk about a sportsman 800 hp 45 is wrong.
Check out at web for look bottom.

http://www.aaenpeformance.com/Power800.asp
Great information. Thanks. No one can agrue with this or if they do, then they just are believing what they want and not the truth. Good job.
 
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whatever atv you wind up buying i'm pretty sure you'll be very happy with it.
just make sure you buy the one thats right for you and the type of riding/work you do.
any make is vulnerable to break down,especially if you ride/work hard.



 


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