I am installing a WARN 2000 winch on my Grizzly and am totally unimpressed with the control unit
that comes with it. The remote kit from a 2500
series (P/N 34708) will work on it but I have not
been able to find a source or a price. Has anyone
found another source for a Handle bar mounted toggle switch for their winch control.

 

The Warn replacement toggle switch should be available at your dealer, or any Warn distributor. It is a standard upgrade for any A2000 winch, and comes with the toggle switch (of course) along with a different solenoid and wiring sequence, a couple extra parts as well for hooking up. It is quite pricey though, at somewhere in the neighborhood of $150 or so(???) if I remember right. If you can't find them anywhere else, I know Arctic Cat has them offerred in their accessory catalogs as standard upgrade units, so a local AC dealer may also stock them.

As for the other types of switches, there is a handlebar mounted switch which works on the Superwinch ATV1500, 2000 lbs. models, though I've heard that it won't handle the power that the Warn puts out. This could be something simple like basic wiring, I don't know, but I have heard they won't work with the Warn winches, or if they do, it's not for very long.

Best of luck in the search,

Mike

 

I believe you're absolutely correct, Cowboy!

The Superwinch handlebar-mounted rocker switch is rated to 118 amps, the current of an ATV2000 pulling 2000 #; a Warn A2000/A2500 draws 145 amps at 2000 # pull, beyond the rocker switch's rating.

Superwinch however does manufacture a remote switch and solenoid kit (Part # 1515A) rated to 267 amps, priced around $ 100, I think.

My 3000 # Superwinch X2 is connected to a solenoid box, controllable either from a remote switch on a 12' cord or from a handlebar-mounted rocker switch; a custom installation a little more complex than it sounds; anyone interested can E-mail me for details.

Tree Farmer

 

Hey Tree Farmer, how ya been? Hey, got a couple of dumb questions for ya. Are all the remote switches on the 12' cord, or is the one you are using actually for the larger truck sized winches, just modified for the smaller atv winch??? Warn uses a remote toggle switch on their big winches, to be controlled from the cab of the vehicle, or far enough away to the sides to be in safe distance should something go wrong. I think however, that the atv style remote toggle only had a 6' cord, does that sound right? Just wondered if Superwinch was the same, or if you upgraded a bit there.

Also, with the 12' cord, how do you -or do you for that matter- control the throttle of the machine? I would love a remote switch on my 'Cat for certain situations, but I don't think the throttle would rev enough to keep enough power to the winch, should I need to be out of reach of the machine.

Which, brings up another little question concerning ****** blocks. If one block will double the pulling power of the winch, will a second, reversed back again, in fact double the power again??? Also, do you think the frame could stand that type of pulling strain? I pull a lot of heavy loads with my winch/****** block, and have often wondered if a second block hooked up with the first would add even more power, yet also what type of damage I'd be doing to the machine.

Thanks a bunch for the info, hope you had a great New Years,

Mike

 

When using the remote switch, Cowboy, I rely on the current already stored in the battery, allowing the idling motor to replenish the "juice." A fast idle might be useful to some extent but wouldn't help much, given the heavy current draw (over 100 amps) of the winch; no way an ATV alternator can put out that much current, even at full rpm engine speed.

Superwinch's standard cable length for the hand-held remote switch (a "trigger" switch, in contrast to Warn's toggle) is twelve feet.

As to multiplying the mechanical advantage of ****** blocks, yes, you can; however, you raise the very real problem of total stress. Each ****** block must be rated a minimum of twice the line tension it carries. Let's say your A2500 pulls 2500 #; your initial ****** block rating must be 5000 # minimum.

Now, you're REALLY serious about pulling something and decide to hook your ****** block to the end of another cable, run that cable through another ****** block, and back to your ATV bumper.

That second ****** block must be rated at 10000 #; also, your winch bumper and frame must withstand a pull of 10000 # (the sum of all line tension attached) total. Also note: your second cable and its hardware must be rated at 5000 # or higher.

Best wishes for the New Year.

Tree Farmer

 

Hey farmer, there is one more thing that you forgot to mention, using such a pully system will use a BUNCH of winch line. Most of us dont carry enough of line to make using 2 ****** blocks usefull. Im a telephone lineman and we use a set of rope snatchblock to float the lines and it uses a set of 4 pullys and we can pull use a 1000# load with just a pull of a single hand. Leverage is such a wonderfull thing.

 

Right you are, robh; I failed to mention each double-line connection (with a ****** block) requires twice as much wire rope as a single line run; also, take-up speed between load and winch is half as fast as in a single line pull. Further, I agree; leverage, or mechanical advantage, is a wonderful thing; the main advantage of our basic machines: lever-and-fulcrum, inclined plane, and pulley (****** block).

A riding partner of mine is also a lineman as you are; he carries a "ground anchor" for a pull point in mucky mess, when no convenient tree grows nearby. Riding with him, we use all fundamental basic machines; the lever-and-fulcrum principle, driving the anchor into the ground by turning a stick passed through the anchor's eye; iinclined plane, the "threads" of the ground anchor, essentially an inclined plane wrapped around the anchor shaft; and the pulley (****** block), providing a mechanical advantage of 2:1 when rigged for a double line pull.

This "machine age" may be more than just a passing fad.

Tree Farmer

 

Thanks for all the information. I think that I will look into adapting the HD Superwinch control unit to it as it looks like that it is about 1/2 the cost of the WARN unit. All I need to do is to be sure that the selenoid package will handle the current load.

 

Do you know where you can pic the parts up for the superwinch??? If so let me know, I not too happy with the switch that came with my warn either..

 

Fear not, AZAL; the Superwinch Handheld Remote Switch and Solenoid Kit will handle the load; however, finding room for the solenoid box may present a challenge. jack@superwinch.com can supply the exact dimensions (guestimate: 8" X 5" X 5") if you need 'em. One user mounted the solenoid box under the front plastic, I understand; guess he bored a hole for the remote switch cord or mounted the electrical socket onto the plastic, instead of the box.

My own solenoid box fits inside the front bumper, centered, above the fairlead.

Tree Farmer