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Feb 22, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Dirtmomma
I got friendly w/ Emilee last year @ Sand Lake & she got mad @ me [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] tried to take a chunk out of me LOL [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] she did draw a little blood but it was no major biggie!! Thats what I get!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by: tnemaloney
sorry for what? nuttin to be sorry for....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: wingdude
Mrs. Wingdude has 2 Emperial (??) Shih Tzu. They are both papered and Kym gets first pick, as special sorry from Emilee.
Originally posted by: tnemaloney
what does wingdude have?
what does wingdude have?
Feb 22, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by: wingdude
Also remember, WildTurkey came up fast on his really loud quad and Ron jumped up as well at the same time. She just sitting in your arms getting petted and all of the sudden, bam.
Originally posted by: Dirtmomma
I got friendly w/ Emilee last year @ Sand Lake & she got mad @ me [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] tried to take a chunk out of me LOL [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] she did draw a little blood but it was no major biggie!! Thats what I get!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by: tnemaloney
sorry for what? nuttin to be sorry for....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: wingdude
Mrs. Wingdude has 2 Emperial (??) Shih Tzu. They are both papered and Kym gets first pick, as special sorry from Emilee.
Originally posted by: tnemaloney
what does wingdude have?
what does wingdude have?
Feb 22, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by: wingdude
Also remember, WildTurkey came up fast on his really loud quad and Ron jumped up as well at the same time. She just sitting in your arms getting petted and all of the sudden, bam.
Originally posted by: Dirtmomma
I got friendly w/ Emilee last year @ Sand Lake & she got mad @ me [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] tried to take a chunk out of me LOL [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] she did draw a little blood but it was no major biggie!! Thats what I get!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by: tnemaloney
sorry for what? nuttin to be sorry for....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: wingdude
Mrs. Wingdude has 2 Emperial (??) Shih Tzu. They are both papered and Kym gets first pick, as special sorry from Emilee.
Originally posted by: tnemaloney
what does wingdude have?
what does wingdude have?
Yes I forgot about that [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] dang MEN hahaha
Feb 22, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
I believe that Happa was talking about an extended hitch on the trailer, not an extension on the receiver/motorhome. So actually the longer the hitch tongue on the trailer, the lighter the tongue.
Originally posted by: tencubed
Yup, if you have a longer hitch extension on the motor home each pound you add at the ball will be more on the axle than with a short extension. Just like a lever used to pick something up. The longer the lever the more a given weight at the end of it can move. When you go to weigh your empty rig put just the rear axle on the scale and weigh it. Then stand on the rear hitch and see what the axle weighs. Take this axle weight difference and divide it by your weight and you have the ratio of weight added to the hitch vs weight added to the rear axle.
Originally posted by: HappaRap
Huh? So longer tongue equal more hitch weight which transfer to rear axle of MH?
Originally posted by: tencubed Never towed with a small motor home but remember the longer the set back to the hitch from the center of the rear axle the longer the lever arm and the more weight moved to the rear axle when trailer tongue weight is added.
Feb 22, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by: tencubed
Ahh, I misunderstood. Still a good idea to get the hitch to axle ratio none the less.
Lengthening the tongue on a trailer will make no difference in the tongue weight on the hitch would it? If the trailer and load weighs say 3000 lbs and you want 10% on the hitch it would still be 300 lbs. What it would do is make the trailer want to track further inside on corners and, in most cases, easier to back up.
Happa is right wanting the tongue long enough to be able to make sharp turns and avoid jackknifes.
Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
I believe that Happa was talking about an extended hitch on the trailer, not an extension on the receiver/motorhome. So actually the longer the hitch tongue on the trailer, the lighter the tongue.
Originally posted by: tencubed
Yup, if you have a longer hitch extension on the motor home each pound you add at the ball will be more on the axle than with a short extension. Just like a lever used to pick something up. The longer the lever the more a given weight at the end of it can move. When you go to weigh your empty rig put just the rear axle on the scale and weigh it. Then stand on the rear hitch and see what the axle weighs. Take this axle weight difference and divide it by your weight and you have the ratio of weight added to the hitch vs weight added to the rear axle.
Originally posted by: HappaRap
Huh? So longer tongue equal more hitch weight which transfer to rear axle of MH?
Originally posted by: tencubed Never towed with a small motor home but remember the longer the set back to the hitch from the center of the rear axle the longer the lever arm and the more weight moved to the rear axle when trailer tongue weight is added.
Lengthening the tongue on a trailer will make no difference in the tongue weight on the hitch would it? If the trailer and load weighs say 3000 lbs and you want 10% on the hitch it would still be 300 lbs. What it would do is make the trailer want to track further inside on corners and, in most cases, easier to back up.
Happa is right wanting the tongue long enough to be able to make sharp turns and avoid jackknifes.
Feb 22, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
It's all about leverage. The longer the tongue, the easier it is to pick up the tongue, hence less tongue weight.
Originally posted by: RancherATCrazy
Same effect though if you have a longer tounge on the trailer it would still be heavier on the Axle of the MH. A shorter tounge would put more weight on the trailer tires [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
I believe that Happa was talking about an extended hitch on the trailer, not an extension on the receiver/motorhome. So actually the longer the hitch tongue on the trailer, the lighter the tongue.
Originally posted by: tencubed
Yup, if you have a longer hitch extension on the motor home each pound you add at the ball will be more on the axle than with a short extension. Just like a lever used to pick something up. The longer the lever the more a given weight at the end of it can move. When you go to weigh your empty rig put just the rear axle on the scale and weigh it. Then stand on the rear hitch and see what the axle weighs. Take this axle weight difference and divide it by your weight and you have the ratio of weight added to the hitch vs weight added to the rear axle.
Originally posted by: HappaRap
Huh? So longer tongue equal more hitch weight which transfer to rear axle of MH?
Originally posted by: tencubed Never towed with a small motor home but remember the longer the set back to the hitch from the center of the rear axle the longer the lever arm and the more weight moved to the rear axle when trailer tongue weight is added.
Feb 22, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by: wingdude
Good Morning PSAR. MB, how does Sunday look for you. Jenna and I could probably come up then. Let me know.
Good Morning PSAR. MB, how does Sunday look for you. Jenna and I could probably come up then. Let me know.
Feb 22, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Here is your trailer lesson.. with equal load in the trailer the longer tounge requires less work (input force from motorhome) to hold up the same load. so the front tires stay on the ground more.