Hey Ragged, I've been looking for the party info. on this forum and I can't find it anywhere......so here goes..








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Ragged Racer
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Fri July 01, 2005 9:20 PM


Sorry guys and gals there wont be any beer but we need all the outspoken sleds heads we can get at these meetings!!

Lets try our bestto keep this at the top for the next week or so!!
this is a copy of another post.........

DONT FORGET GUYS!! WA. MT. AND ID. RIDERS ALL NEED TO BE THERE !!


Senator Larry Craig and Under Secretary of Agriculture Mark Rey, (King of the Forest Service) are going to be in Idaho holding 'listening sessions' on how the public wants to use the public lands.

This is our chance to let them know we don't want Wilderness! The press will be at every session. We need huge numbers of folks to come to testify or to just be there and be counted. Signs would also be nice. You can bet the greens will be there in huge numbers! Let's get organized and get the job done. Turn our folks out and make a statement!

The structure of the meetings is: one hour for a round table discussion with representatives from various interest groups and one hour for public testimony. Everyone obviously won't get to testify but we can still make a statement. For example, the first one of our folks to testify asks everyone in the audience who opposes the Boulder White Cloud Wilderness Bill and/or the OI to stand: Statement made if we have lots of folks in the audience. If not, we look silly.

The meetings are:

July 5th, Idaho Falls, 6:00 - 8:00 p.m. Teton-Yellowstone Room, Red Lion Hotel

July 6th, Boise, BSU Jordan Ballroom, 6:00 - 8:00 p.m.

July 7th, Coeur d'Alene, North Idaho College, SUB, Lake Coeur d'Alene Room, 7:00 - 9:00 p.m

I say we have a contest and see which part of the state can turnout the most folks and get the most press! There will of course be a nice prize.

In order to get the job done right, it would certainly help if we had a coordinator in each part of state to chair these events. Anyone interested in helping out? Please let me know. I will give you all the help I can from here.

This is an unexpected opportunity--we need to take advantage of it. Please help out if you can!

Ragged


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I have heard from reliable sources that the July 7 meeting in Coeur d'Alene is at 6PM.....Not 7pm.....better early than late

 

Yes the Meeting is from 6pm to 8pm!

 

An email from Sandra Mitchell of the Blue Ribbon Coalition:

YOUR ATTENTION IS REQUIRED REGARDING – WILDERNESS
WHEN: Thursday, July 7th, at 6:00 pm
WHERE: North Idaho College, SUB, Lake Coeur d'Alene Room
SANDRA MITCHELL HAS REQUESTED THAT ALL WHO ATTEND WEAR RED SHIRTS!
As you know, Senator Larry Craig and Under Secretary of Agriculture Mark
Rey, (King of
the Forest Service) are going to be in Idaho holding 'listening sessions'
on how the public wants to use the public lands.

This is our chance to let them know we don't want Wilderness! The press
will be at every session. We need huge numbers of folks to come to testify
or to just be there and be counted. Signs would also be nice.
If there is only one thing you do this year to support your sport do this!
Be there!
The more numbers we have to be counted the more representation we will have!
Below are Points you might want to make if you are given the opportunity to
speak at
the listening sessions:

Wilderness in General

¨ Idaho already has sufficient acres set aside for wilderness. When
the Wilderness Act became law in 1964, 54 areas (9.1 million acres) in 13
states were designated as Wilderness. Since 1964, the System has grown
almost every year to include 677 wildernesses covering more than 106
million acres in 44 states. I am not anti-wilderness; I just think we
have enough.

¨ Only 3% of the public uses wilderness. What are truly needed are
more backcountry areas for motorized and mechanized recreation not less.
OHV use and snowmobiling is among the 5 fastest growing activities in
America.

¨ Congressionally designated wilderness is not always the best way to
protect the land. Our public lands deserve the best management possible;
wilderness limits the options of the agencies. I am tired of watching our
public lands burn up each summer.


¨ Wild, beautiful, undeveloped lands are vitally important to the
people of Idaho. Why should those of us who prefer to recreate with
motorized vehicles be excluded from some of the most spectacular areas? We
have been riding these areas for years and they still qualify for
wilderness. This proves that our sport has little or no impact on the land
and its resources.



Central Idaho Economic Development and Recreation Act/Boulder White Cloud
Wilderness Bill

¨ The hard work of Congressman Simpson and his staff on CIEDRA is
appreciated but the bill falls short of meeting the needs of the recreating
public.

¨ CIEDRA does not contain trigger language that would require all the
promises made in the bill to be kept before the wilderness designation
becomes law.

¨ This land is not under any threat and no one has demonstrated a
compelling need for wilderness designation has been demonstrated. Most of
the Boulder-White Clouds (BWC) area is part of the already-protected
Sawtooth National Recreation Area. and already falls under its substantial
legislative umbrella.

¨ The Boulder White Clouds provides outstanding opportunities for
diverse recreation.a mix of recreation opportunities, motorized and
non-motorized Motorized and mechanized users have ridden these mountains
responsibly for decades and the area still qualifies for wilderness. What
better testimony could there be for the compatibility of these sports with
these mountains?

¨ The rural communities surrounding the BWC cannot afford to lose the
economic benefits association with motorized and mechanized use for
short-term economic gains.

¨ More access to the public land is needed not less. A motor park and
paved trails are no substitute for the beauty and challenge of the Boulder
White Clouds.

The Owyhee Initiative

¨ I support the cattle industry in Owyhee County but do not believe
that the Owyhee Initiative as drafted will benefit them in the long run.
The threat to multiple-use management in the Owyhees comes from other laws,
administrative discretion, and external political forces that are not
addressed in the legislation.

¨ The 510,000 acres being recommended for wilderness in the OI because
it includes over 100,000 acres that were determined unsuitable for
wilderness by the BLM. These lands could best be used for other purposes
including grazing, wildlife habitat and recreation.

¨ The bill does not contain hard release language which would prohibit
the agency from considering those lands released t be designated as a
wilderness study area in the future. As a result the wilderness issue in
Owyhee County is not settled.

¨ I support the People for the Owyhees wilderness proposal that
included approximately 390,000 acres of wilderness (those acres recommended
for wilderness by the BLM), contained hard release language and protected
current and historic uses and access.
Any questions please call Larry Waddell (CDA Snowmobile club) or
Harold Morris in place of Frank Axtell (North Idaho ATV Club)

 

Colville Wenatchee, Okanogan NF ROADLESS Meeting Schedules, dates, locations from the enemy for those in Eastern Wa that would like to attend

WildAlert
July 8, 2005




Take Action



Voice Your Support for Eastern Washington's Roadless Forests

Attend a public meeting this month to advocate for the protection of Eastern Washington's unspoiled forests.



The Wenatchee, Okanogan, and Colville National Forests contain more than half of the roadless areas remaining in Washington State. In the past, Washingtonians have spoken out strongly in support of protecting these pristine areas that provide unparalleled recreational opportunities, essential wildlife habitat, as well as clean drinking water and clean air.



As the first step in reviewing which areas of these forests qualify for wilderness protection, the Forest Service recently proposed reducing the amount of inventoried roadless areas by 150,000 acres or 12%. Few acres are proposed to be added, despite the fact that as many as 400,000 acres of roadless quality land in eastern Washington forests remain uninventoried.



The Forest Service is inviting the public to review and comment on their proposed changes to roadless boundaries at one of five public meetings. We need to make sure that these meetings are well attended to send a clear message that Americans want more, not less, roadless forest areas protected.



The meetings are coming up quickly -- dates, times, and locations are below. We hope you'll come out and show your support for protecting Washington's last remaining pristine National Forests for future generations.



Tuesday, July 12, 7:00-8:30 p.m.
Bellevue High School, Performing Arts Center, Bellevue, WA



Wednesday, July 13, 7:00-8:30 p.m.
Red Lion Yakima Center Hotel, Yakima, WA



Thursday, July 14, 7:00-8:30 p.m.
Wenatchee Red Lion Hotel, Wenatchee, WA



Monday, July 18, 7:00-8:30 p.m.
Community Colleges of Spokane, Dominion Room, Colville, WA



Wednesday, July 20, 7:00-8:30 p.m.
Okanogan Agriplex Annex, Okanogan County Fairgrounds, Okanogan, WA



Photo above: Twin Sisters and Hoodoo Roadless Area, Colville National Forest, WA. Photo by John Foster.




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What's At Stake



The Wenatchee, Okanogan, and Colville National Forests contain 62% of the nearly 2 million acres of inventoried roadless areas in Washington State. Roadless forests provide safe and clean drinking water for 60 million Americans, world class recreational opportunities, and the majority of unspoiled habitat for threatened and endangered species. These lands have limited potential for resource extraction, including logging.



The Forest Service's proposal substantially reduces the amount of Inventoried Roadless Areas in the three national forests by about 150,000 acres, or 12%. Some areas, including parts of the historic Pacific Crest Trail, have been reduced by half, while others have been dropped altogether.



Worse yet, the current proposal ignores more than 400,000 acres of uninventoried roadless areas that were mistakenly omitted from prior inventories. The forest planning regulations require that the Forest Service inventory all forest lands with roadless character, including those that have not yet been inventoried. However, many of the maps and tables provided by the Forest Service are poorly defined or unclear. More importantly, there are no specifics associated with stated rationale for reduction or deletion of inventoried roadless areas.



Background on the Roadless Area Conservation Rule



Inventoried roadless areas like these in eastern Washington were protected from logging and roadbuilding by the Roadless Area Conservation Rule. The Roadless Rule was finalized in January 2001 after years of scientific study, 600 local public hearings and meetings that produced the greatest public rulemaking response in the history of the federal government. More than 81,000 Washingtonians submitted comments supporting the Roadless Rule protections. This balanced policy protects 58.5 million acres of national forests across the country, including almost 2 million acres in Washington State, while allowing road construction in order to fight wildfires, ensure public safety, and access to private lands.



The proposed changes to roadless boundaries come on the heels of a new rule finalized by the Bush Administration which repeals protection for 58.5 million acres of roadless forests nationwide. Under the new regulations, state governors must petition the Forest Service with recommendations in order for roadless areas to be considered for protection. However, these petitions are nonbinding, and the Forest Service is free to accept, reject, or modify them. Absent a petition, roadless area management will be determined through the local forest planning process.

 

Ok whos riding this weekend? Have to work today, but I'm going to try and sneek out tomarrow and try out these new tires!

 

thanks for the help there Elkaholic.....How was the turn out?? I was told it was pretty good....I hope it dose some good!

Just got back fron the flatlands of Michigan visiting family....it was awsome weather but Im sure glad to be home!!

Looks like its been rainin a bit here...well I guess that make for some good dust controll..[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

So when are we going to do that Lake Elsie ride ...someone set a date already!

Ragged

 

Good evening all. We are goign to try and go up to elsie on the 23rd of july if things go as planned. We will talk with our friends who have a river lot up the st joe. Usually we trailer the machines up to calder then ride from there--I think. Our friend did a the loop 2 weekends ago and said it was a BLAST--70 miles for the loop. Anyway let us know if anybody else wants to go. We are hoping this date works for us too

Kori

 

Im gonna try and make that happen.....23rd it is!! ....the rest of you guys in??[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Ragged

 

I think I can make that. I'll talk to some of my other riding buddies. Sounds like a good time.