airmoore,

The fee has nothing at all to do with quads. Its a land use pass. It helps to maintain the area and keep it open to the public. You must have this permit to even walk on the land. So, with that in mind, its per person. Yes this includes kids.

As far as camping goes, the only place I have seen with hook ups myself have been the state campgrounds. You can not ride from them. At some time, someone posted about a place that you could ride from with hookups but I cant remember the url.

Yes all the riding area is north of most of the state camp grounds. An old version of the map is available on my web site (www.ansley.net). The maps are free and can be gotten where you get your pass. Get them at most gas stations up there or Walmart. Just ask for a "land use pass" and a free map.

 

TEXMud,
Thanks I updated and got the map to open, I thought i had the latest update but didn't. Those look like some pretty good trails that you've routed out there. Thanks again.


Creekrider,
Unfortunately I have to disagree with TEXMud about the topo maps. To me they show a lot more detail, including the smaller roads. If you dont want all the detail you can always turn it down on your gps, but if you want it its not there on roads and recreation, or metroguide. I have Topo and U.S. Roads and Recreation. Its really all about what you like, you can go to Garmins website here http://www.garmin.com/cartography/

and use the map viewers side by side to see the difference in the two. Either way you will be a lot better of than with the basic base map that is standard in your gps.

Later guys
Okbow68

 

okbow68,

Those are not all the routes we have done, just some common ones.

I have MetroGuide and use it exclusively. I have yet to find one trail in the Broken Bow area or the WPG area that is on the topo and no the MetroGuide.

What I wish you could do is have a mix of both softwares working at once. Maybe MetroGuide on full detail, and topo on a lower detail level. My eTrex Vista cant do that though.

 

TEXMud
I stand corrected about the trails. I wish they could be both seen on my gpsmap76s at the same time but I have to choose one or the other like the etrexs. Here is a side by side pic comparing Topo and US Roads and Recreation, it is centered on your "camp4" on the map that you sent me


Do you have any maps you have ridden of trails around Clayton, I hear there are some nice ones around there. I would be interested to see the route you have chosen on the K trail between the lake area and Clayton, that would be a cool ride.

I guess you cant put pics in these messages like that well click on my pics to the left and I put it in there.
Let me know what you think
Okbow68

 

TexMud, Okbow

Thanks for the help. I turned the map detail to high on my GPS V with the City select maps loaded for the WPG area and no trails showed but the county roads did. I guess I will have to pickup a copy of metroguide or topo to get those. kind of dissappointed because I thought city select was supposed to be the equiv to metroguide for the autorouting units like the GPS V. oh well. what kind of mapping software do you guys use? expertgps or something like that?

 

Creekrider,
I have Mapsource Topo and Roads and Recreation, and Easygps, and Street Atlas USA, but they might not show much if any more than what you have.
The GPS V will probably be the gps that I buy next for my wifes car since it has auto routing.
I just like TOPO better then Roads and Rec I find it more useful for hunting and such.

 

Last I looked the Roads and Rec had less trails than the MetroGuide. This is why I bought it. I took a screen capture at .7 miles zoom with both topo(right) and metro(left) that can be seen here:

http://www.ansley.net/temp/metro_topo.jpg

The topo is just too crowded to read fast on a trail for me.

I havent riden at Clayton yet. We have NEVER made it to the K Trail. The last time we tried we had rookies with us that I knew couldnt handle the 12-15 hour ride we would of had. I am still trying to find a decent way to get there since the trails in Honobia are NOT marked well.

City Select will not have trials on it. MetroGuide is the best I have found thus far and I have about 10 different MapSource versions. As far as mapping software, I havent found anything better than the Garmin MapSource stuff. If you want to get really wild you can plot your tracks on satellite images as I have done a few times in the past. Check my site for those pics (www.ansley.net)

 

TexMud you seem to be the one with ALL the information. Do you have any information on public trails close to wister lake. How do you know if you have to have the permit to ride on them? Well how bout I just say any information you have on trails in this area would be greatly appreciated. Trail entrances, permits (where to get them) parking and loading and unloading areas. ANYTHING ... HELP.

 

All the immediate land around Wister is state park. This more than likely means you can NOT ride it. But about 10 miles south is Honobia, which is the northern part of Broken Bow and has the same rules.

 

By same rules do you mean that you can ride there? And what highway is this off of?