yfz450 vs yz450f
#11
10-02-2003, 04:24 PM
#12
10-02-2003, 04:29 PM
yfz450 vs yz450f
Also take into consideration the size of the bake tire. If you make one revolution with the YFZ's back tire, and then one revoltution with the YZ's back tire, which one is going to roll farther? Now in a race, if the rear tires are turning the same rpms, the YZ with the bigger tire is going to go alot farther every revolution than the YFZ. If you put the same size tire on each bike, (height, not width) then race, the outcome will change drastically. I'm not saying that the YZ would now lose, but if it still won, it would not be even close to the same length as before. Just my .02
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#13
10-02-2003, 04:37 PM
yfz450 vs yz450f
Transmissions on bikes and quads are much different. You couldn't put dirt bike wheels and tires on a quad or put quad wheels and tires on a dirt bike. It would ruin the power and speed of both machines. It wouldn't be possible to have a decent running machine without drastic transmission mods.
#14
10-02-2003, 05:30 PM
yfz450 vs yz450f
Originally posted by: DEMag
In theory, what you are saying is true about the sand. But in reality its not. A paddle tire on a dirt bike = awesome traction in the sand. Quads just don't compare to bikes. Sure, bikes have been beaten by quads in all sorts of races. But if you put a STOCK YFZ450 (with paddles) against a STOCK YZ450F (with paddle), the bike will come out on top. When I had my YZ250, the only quad I ever lost an uphill drag race in the sand to was a 250R which the owner said was bored out to 350 and had a butt load of work done to. I don't know how truthful he was, but it doesnt matter. He won. And I still think he would have won even if I was using a paddle that day, which I was not. But it would have been much closer. He simply had an amazing 250R with probably no less then $15,000 invested (judging by all the trick aftermarket parts and mods he was talking about).
Originally posted by: rennym
On pavement, this probably true.
But in the sand, the traction afforded by two FAT driving wheels, compared to one narrow one is suprising. The quad will roast the bike, just in traction alone. (I have a video on it, that shows the bike getting smoked in the drags.....I would post it but I don't have a website....)
On hardpack, the bike may not get the first 20 ft for the same traction reasons, but after that, it's all over with the bike way out front.
On pavement, this probably true.
But in the sand, the traction afforded by two FAT driving wheels, compared to one narrow one is suprising. The quad will roast the bike, just in traction alone. (I have a video on it, that shows the bike getting smoked in the drags.....I would post it but I don't have a website....)
On hardpack, the bike may not get the first 20 ft for the same traction reasons, but after that, it's all over with the bike way out front.
I haven't raced them in the sand, but stock for stock using paddles, the bike may come out on top, but the quad should give it some problems up to 3rd gear. Someone on here has to have raced the by now...... C'mon post the results.
I ride my bike and quad, and my buddy's YFZ pretty often. I know what the pull of a bike feels like. Much harder than a quad. Initially I was pretty suprised at that video I watched of 4-5 quads and a bike lining up in the sand but the traction argument rings true.
BTW, I have the same truck, just silver.
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#18
10-03-2003, 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by: Yamaha4eva
all true, but u cant take a bike anywhere you want, with an atv there is no limits...well unless you wanna drive down a cliff or a waterfall or something lol
all true, but u cant take a bike anywhere you want, with an atv there is no limits...well unless you wanna drive down a cliff or a waterfall or something lol
#19
10-03-2003, 02:56 PM
yfz450 vs yz450f
Originally posted by: DEMag
I have to disagree. I've gone many more places with a bike then I could with a quad. Bikes are so light, nimble, and narrow its hard to find a place they can't go. The only place I can think of where a bike can't go is mud bogging. There have been many instances where if I was riding a quad, I wouldn't have been able to get where I wanted to go but made it with a bike no problem. Oh and cliffs are no problem on a bike either. Just as long as they are not too high.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: Yamaha4eva
all true, but u cant take a bike anywhere you want, with an atv there is no limits...well unless you wanna drive down a cliff or a waterfall or something lol
all true, but u cant take a bike anywhere you want, with an atv there is no limits...well unless you wanna drive down a cliff or a waterfall or something lol
I climb very steep hills with ruts and rough surfaces, the bike soaks it up, and has tons of power to spare. Not to mention, that if you dump, you have a better chance that the bike will fall on it's side, and not tumble endlessly down the hill.
Up here in Toronto, I ride the bike all summer, and as the weather gets crappy, I switch to the quad for the mud and snow.
The YFZ has me grinning about getting near bike acceleration in a quad. But it really kicks the crap out of the rider, compared to the bike.....
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10-03-2003, 03:00 PM
