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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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I want to change my oil again on my Raptor and, was wondering if I can buy different oil than Yamalube 4.

I see different weights 10-w50, 20-w50, 10-w30 10-w40, 20-w40. What does it all mean and, what is the best weight for my quad? I noticed that nothing was the exact same weight as Yamalube 4 at any auto parts store. I forget the exact # but i think Yami4 is 20-w40 and, the closest i saw was 20-w50.

Also, what other filter can i run instead of the $22 dollar Yamaha oil filter... I see a bunch at the auto parts store but, they all look to long and, may hit your foot..

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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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I run a $12 K&N filter. No problems
 
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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K&N oil filter? Where do you get them? The LAME Dealers around here would never have something like that... They are lucky to put their shoes on the right foot.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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Thank Moose for this......I saved it! Copy....paste! I personally run the Bosch 3300. I find them at Autozone for around $5. I also wouldn't mind finding a cheaper alternative to the Yamalube, but be sure it's right. Some oil will ruin the clutch. I run the Yamalube 20w40 for now! My dealer gives a discount on a case.

Automotive oil filters to fit the Raptor:

Motorcycle-Specific Filters - (About 2.5 to 3 inches long)
1. Purolator Motorcycle ML16817 about $6.00
2. NAPA Gold 1358 about $7 to $8
3. Carquest 85358 about $7 to $8
4. WIX 51358 about $7 to $8
5. AC Delco PF2135 about $10

Automobile Filters - (About 2.5 inches long - fit reference Mazda RX-7 and Miata)
1. Bosch 3300 about $5
2. NAPA Gold 1365 about $6
3. Purolator L14622 about $5
4. AC Delco PF1237 about $6
5. STP S-02876 about $3

Automobile Filters - (About 3.5 inches long - fit reference 1994 Mazda MX-3, V-6 Engine)
1. Mobil 1 M1-110 about $10
2. Bosch 3323 about $5
3. Purolator Pure One L14620 about $6
4. NAPA Gold 1356 about $6
5. Carquest 85356 about $6
6. WIX 51356 about $6
7. Deutsch D-370 about $4
8. AC Delco PF-2057 about $6
9. Motorcraft Long Life FL-821 about $4
10. STP S-02867 about $3

And the Ultimate Raptor oil filter, The Scotts Reusable (Part # S1). Yea it's pricey ($109) but it's the last oil filter you'll ever have to buy!!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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So will any 20-40wt oil be ok for the Raptor? I can't see what the difference would be. Oil is oil right? Yamaha doesn't put in special "Clutch Aditives" does it?

I figured i'd get s good brand name 20-40wt oil. But, the closest thing i've seen is 20-50wt. Will it hurt?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 05:23 PM
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Most automotive oils can ruin your clutch. There are additives in them that are not suitable for a wet clutch. I'm sure someone with the actual knowledge will chime in soon. I just know there's a reason not to use just any oil.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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The only oils you have to stay away from are oils that list "moly" as one of the additives. Its an additive that bonds to high friction areas to develop a higher lubrication ability at "hot" spots. That is obviously bad for clutches. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Other than that no, theres nothing wrong with running automotive grade oils in your atv. There are some differences between manufacturers, but the "yamalube, belray, silkolene,etc" that your paying 6-8 dollars a quart for is just a good quaility synthetic/or castor bean oil with their name on the label. Its all marketing, and making the average joe think that if you don't run motorcycle/atv specific oil your motor gonna blow up. Sorry, but I call BS. Any quality motor oil that meets the minimum requirements for the vehicle will work fine.(hint: even generic walmart brand oil does this) What it all boils down to is how often you change your oil. Any oil has an expected life time, and it varies by the quality of the oil. If you change it before deterioration begins you'll never have an issue. I run 15w50 Mobil 1 fully synthetic, and have ran automotive oils for 11 yrs now with no problems. Rest easy and save some $.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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K&N oil filter? Where do you get them? The LAME Dealers around here would never have something like that... They are lucky to put their shoes on the right foot.
I get them at my local ATV shop, where I buy all my stuff.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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I run kendal straight 30 wieght [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] works great for me. I didn't know car filters fit on ATV's though, i may just go down to autozone and get my next filter.
 
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