Stage1 or, Stage 2 cam?
#1
What is the difference and, what do you need to do to put one in? Any other things you need? Can I do it myself?
What Kind of performance gains can you expect from either on a piped and, proflow'd Raptor?
I'm trying to catch up w/ my friends "Worked" Banshee's. I want to get as much as i can without boring it and, getting to crazy!
Thanks!
What Kind of performance gains can you expect from either on a piped and, proflow'd Raptor?
I'm trying to catch up w/ my friends "Worked" Banshee's. I want to get as much as i can without boring it and, getting to crazy!
Thanks!
#2
You'll need to pull the head and put in different valve springs for the stage 2, the stage 1 you use your stock springs. Unless you port the head and up the compression I would use the stage 1.
#4
I was going to do the same thing as you. Just a drop in cam and let her rip. I however got a wild streak and decide to go ahead and bore it. I went with a 686 as a simple bore is $50ish regardless of whether it was a first over or a 102mm. A piston cost me about $150 or so and I went with the 12:1 je. Add a stage 2 hotcam and if you can afford it, port it. HUGE gains. If you've got to wrench on it spend a couple extra bucks and do it right! You wouldnt believe the difference between a 686 and a stock machine. It's like comparing a Warrior to a Raptor. If your bud's got a worked over shee it's your only hope. It's another $300ish and a bunch of work but you're gonna tear into it anyhow stage 2 686 will deliver the shee stompin you're lookin for. Yes you can do it yourself. I did my work myself even though it seemed very difficult by looking at it. Dont be afraid of the external oil lines and such as it's really a simple motor to work on. The stage 1 is the best bet for you if you're not going into that motor but I'd highly reccomend the stage 2 and a hi comp piston.
#5
Originally posted by: Mr45auto
I was going to do the same thing as you. Just a drop in cam and let her rip. I however got a wild streak and decide to go ahead and bore it. I went with a 686 as a simple bore is $50ish regardless of whether it was a first over or a 102mm. A piston cost me about $150 or so and I went with the 12:1 je. Add a stage 2 hotcam and if you can afford it, port it. HUGE gains. If you've got to wrench on it spend a couple extra bucks and do it right! You wouldnt believe the difference between a 686 and a stock machine. It's like comparing a Warrior to a Raptor. If your bud's got a worked over shee it's your only hope. It's another $300ish and a bunch of work but you're gonna tear into it anyhow stage 2 686 will deliver the shee stompin you're lookin for. Yes you can do it yourself. I did my work myself even though it seemed very difficult by looking at it. Dont be afraid of the external oil lines and such as it's really a simple motor to work on. The stage 1 is the best bet for you if you're not going into that motor but I'd highly reccomend the stage 2 and a hi comp piston.
I was going to do the same thing as you. Just a drop in cam and let her rip. I however got a wild streak and decide to go ahead and bore it. I went with a 686 as a simple bore is $50ish regardless of whether it was a first over or a 102mm. A piston cost me about $150 or so and I went with the 12:1 je. Add a stage 2 hotcam and if you can afford it, port it. HUGE gains. If you've got to wrench on it spend a couple extra bucks and do it right! You wouldnt believe the difference between a 686 and a stock machine. It's like comparing a Warrior to a Raptor. If your bud's got a worked over shee it's your only hope. It's another $300ish and a bunch of work but you're gonna tear into it anyhow stage 2 686 will deliver the shee stompin you're lookin for. Yes you can do it yourself. I did my work myself even though it seemed very difficult by looking at it. Dont be afraid of the external oil lines and such as it's really a simple motor to work on. The stage 1 is the best bet for you if you're not going into that motor but I'd highly reccomend the stage 2 and a hi comp piston.
#6
So I will get gains out of a Stage 1 cam? What would happen if I just put a stage 2 in? I may port it as well.. what does it cost to port the head?? WHois a good place to have do it?
What is the diff between S1 and, S2???????
What is the diff between S1 and, S2???????
#7
Originally posted by: Mr45auto
I was going to do the same thing as you. Just a drop in cam and let her rip. I however got a wild streak and decide to go ahead and bore it. I went with a 686 as a simple bore is $50ish regardless of whether it was a first over or a 102mm. A piston cost me about $150 or so and I went with the 12:1 je. Add a stage 2 hotcam and if you can afford it, port it. HUGE gains. If you've got to wrench on it spend a couple extra bucks and do it right! You wouldnt believe the difference between a 686 and a stock machine. It's like comparing a Warrior to a Raptor. If your bud's got a worked over shee it's your only hope. It's another $300ish and a bunch of work but you're gonna tear into it anyhow stage 2 686 will deliver the shee stompin you're lookin for. Yes you can do it yourself. I did my work myself even though it seemed very difficult by looking at it. Dont be afraid of the external oil lines and such as it's really a simple motor to work on. The stage 1 is the best bet for you if you're not going into that motor but I'd highly reccomend the stage 2 and a hi comp piston.
I was going to do the same thing as you. Just a drop in cam and let her rip. I however got a wild streak and decide to go ahead and bore it. I went with a 686 as a simple bore is $50ish regardless of whether it was a first over or a 102mm. A piston cost me about $150 or so and I went with the 12:1 je. Add a stage 2 hotcam and if you can afford it, port it. HUGE gains. If you've got to wrench on it spend a couple extra bucks and do it right! You wouldnt believe the difference between a 686 and a stock machine. It's like comparing a Warrior to a Raptor. If your bud's got a worked over shee it's your only hope. It's another $300ish and a bunch of work but you're gonna tear into it anyhow stage 2 686 will deliver the shee stompin you're lookin for. Yes you can do it yourself. I did my work myself even though it seemed very difficult by looking at it. Dont be afraid of the external oil lines and such as it's really a simple motor to work on. The stage 1 is the best bet for you if you're not going into that motor but I'd highly reccomend the stage 2 and a hi comp piston.
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#8
Well, what does the "worked" banshee have? There is only so far you can go with a 4-stroke compared to a 2-stroke. If he is Piped, reeds, intake, port and polish. Simply the stage 1 cam wont take him. a 686 with 11:1 and stage 2 will. If he is a stroker with all the above + high compression and a few more goodies, then don't bother trying to catch him.
#10
Originally posted by: fast440
how do you list your bikes, mods ect. under the dotted line at the bottom of your posts?
how do you list your bikes, mods ect. under the dotted line at the bottom of your posts?


