Good Quote!!! I've ran the $hit out my 730 too!!! I probably put over 250 full throttle runs on it in the Cinders drag racing and hillclimbing[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]

 

it cost more in the long run to cut corners and your not riding because your working on it

 

DollarBillz what are you doing up so early, you starting the beast up today?

 

dollarbillz - that is very true. I wish I would have gone the 730 first instead of going with the JE 686!!! It was a total waist in the long run!!!

 

What paddles are you running at the Cinders, i ruined a set of new haulers up their after 2 rides, i mean all the paddles were gone. I was thinking about running paddlemaster, what do you run and which one seems to hook up the best, cuz i can barely make it up $100 hill on my haulers and i cant go up the face i have to go up the side?

 

From watching the vids I just don't think it's worth machining the bottom case for the clearance needed for the longer stroke on the 700's just to gain an extra quad length on a 686. Honestly I thought bout building my raptor up that much, and I would so go that route as many as you have in the dunes without hesitation. But for up here where I live, that difference will never show between a 686 and a 730, there's just not enough room cept for the odd flat river drags in the winter. And even then, there's so many other factors that would affect it over cc displacement. Setups everything, and I know for a fact that there won't be many guys in my area even with a 730 that can setup their quads good enough to beat a 686 fine tuned because once they jet, they will never tinker and rejet, their too lazy and get the shops to do all their tuning, shops I used to work at! The shops don't know jack, I watched them try to dial in a Banshee with pipes when I was 17 and thought they were total idiots then, let alone if they changed mechs... I haven't lost to a Raptor yet in this town no matter what mods they had, and I've heard of a few 700+cc raptors going round, even one on nitrous. He's probably went through his tranny by now amongst many other parts, I seen that quad, looked bagged to hell and back! I'm going to do the rod, and I'll probably hold off on the 686 kit till next winter when I'll send my head out to get ported. I like hearing bout your buildups and advice either way, seeing how strong that 686 runs against 730's I know that's all I need for my area. But no one's mentioned if they've heard or seen a Powroll 770kit run yet? What's up with that? Powroll makes good kits, I got one in my T-Wolf, so why isn't anyone going that route?[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

 

I dont think they machine it to put a longer stroke for a 727 its still the stock stroke they machine it to put a larger sleeve in it for the 105mm bore... if anyone can correct me...

 

No sorry your right, I realized that after, just forgot. I knew it was machined though. I don't know if the Powroll 770 has to be machine more than just for the sleeve either?

 

We don't run paddles. We run plain old knobbies. We may take paddles to race sometime, it just says so much more when you climb hills with knobbies[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

The wind doesn't blow at Glamis? Sure It does. I've seen guys awnings ripped right off their motorhomes at Glamis. To answer your questions. Find Baker, Ca on your map and go 30 minutes north on the 127 and you'll be at Dumont. Don't know where you live or how long it would take you versus Glamis. Glamis has lots of dunes, Dumont has big tall dunes, just not the area of Glamis. If you like seeing who can get through the whoops the best then run Glamis. Dumont has a steeper, 1000' long hill that rises over 300' in elevation from bottom to top, fairly whoopless, especialy right now. Dumont = bigger, better, funner dunes, better drag race hill. Glamis = Olds and the flats and Thanksgiving. This is all just my humble opinion.