proper banshee compression test?
#41
Originally posted by: DaBeechMan
lady friend. 160-170 psi will be fine in a stock motor. This change will only change your hp by a few ponies and torque by a few points. We arent porting the motor here, and it is still stock.
Would i weld a crank? Yes, but that is because anytime i go into a motor it is ported, piped, ect. When you start with a 34hp motor and take it to 65hp that would require a crank to be trued and welded. But a 34hp motor to a 36hp motor wont hurt it any.
lady friend. 160-170 psi will be fine in a stock motor. This change will only change your hp by a few ponies and torque by a few points. We arent porting the motor here, and it is still stock.
Would i weld a crank? Yes, but that is because anytime i go into a motor it is ported, piped, ect. When you start with a 34hp motor and take it to 65hp that would require a crank to be trued and welded. But a 34hp motor to a 36hp motor wont hurt it any.
Ok, well that makes sense I guess.
I was under the impression that the Banshee cranks were pretty weak, and that it was not a good idea to push them (the crank) in stock condition. Thanks for the clarification.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
#43
well there are two sides to the compression story.
on a stock port banshee, bumping up the compression would be a good thing to do because the stock banshee motor doesn't rev the way a small two stroke twin should. when you start building for more rpm though, the higher compression #'s will put a strain on your motor's ability to rev out up top where all the horsepower is at. hurting a banshee's ability to rev is bad. less rpm = less power. the torque gained by running higher compression will offset the loss of rpm some and on most applications, the higher compression higher rpm motor will make more horsepower with the lower compression lower rpm motor. On a drag ported engine that likes to be run at 11,000 rpm though, (the fastest 350 banshees) excess compression is bad. I believe the fastest 350 banshees out there only run in the neighborhood of 150 psi.
with more compression, you are going to have a torquier banshee. great for off the pipe riding. great way to gain more power on stock or mild ported banshees. great for riding a gear high and great for getting off the line quick. bad on the wallet depending on how much compression you are planning on running. bad on the internal parts. the crankshaft will take more abuse with the added strain of compressing the air/fuel mixture in a smaller combustion chamber. running around 160 psi is safe with 91/93 octane depending on your area. 160 psi probably wont even put much more of a strain on the crank than a stock banshee just cause the way they don't rev out the way they should stock.
well that's my 2 pennies.
on a stock port banshee, bumping up the compression would be a good thing to do because the stock banshee motor doesn't rev the way a small two stroke twin should. when you start building for more rpm though, the higher compression #'s will put a strain on your motor's ability to rev out up top where all the horsepower is at. hurting a banshee's ability to rev is bad. less rpm = less power. the torque gained by running higher compression will offset the loss of rpm some and on most applications, the higher compression higher rpm motor will make more horsepower with the lower compression lower rpm motor. On a drag ported engine that likes to be run at 11,000 rpm though, (the fastest 350 banshees) excess compression is bad. I believe the fastest 350 banshees out there only run in the neighborhood of 150 psi.
with more compression, you are going to have a torquier banshee. great for off the pipe riding. great way to gain more power on stock or mild ported banshees. great for riding a gear high and great for getting off the line quick. bad on the wallet depending on how much compression you are planning on running. bad on the internal parts. the crankshaft will take more abuse with the added strain of compressing the air/fuel mixture in a smaller combustion chamber. running around 160 psi is safe with 91/93 octane depending on your area. 160 psi probably wont even put much more of a strain on the crank than a stock banshee just cause the way they don't rev out the way they should stock.
well that's my 2 pennies.
#44
agree with you with the exception of most of the fastest 350's running 150psi in each hole. Remember a small bore short stroke wants to rev naturally, it doesnt need low compression to help it. Bumping it up to 170-190 (if alk) will help get the torque that a banshee doesnt have in the stock stroke/bore setup.
#45
Originally posted by: deathmetal
Yeah a stock banshee motor runs around 120 psi, and for the most part, people dont rebuild until it hits around 90-100.
Yeah a stock banshee motor runs around 120 psi, and for the most part, people dont rebuild until it hits around 90-100.
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