What a coincidence, those are exactly the same three machines that choke on my dust as I fly by them on my Ds. What are you Japanese or something? What do you have against Bombardier? At least it is'nt a jap trap and it happens to be one of the strongest quads out there. In terms of motor and structure. So lay off @$$! Just becuase its the new guy in town does not mean that they suck. Oh you must be jealous. That explains it.