im more of a fourstroke guy, but i have seen the stroker cubs and the raptor may be impressive but my money would be on the banshee with a 4 mill in cub cylinder hes going to be above a 400cc and if sombody spent all that money on a motor its going to be ported and going to have close to 100 horse no raptor unless turbo or nos is going to touch that.

 

and if your talking about with motors like this you gotta be talking in the sand and with the right paddles traction isnt such an issue compared to dirt or on a track.

 

If you take to identical quads and put a 50hp 2 stroke engine in one and a 50hp 4 stroke in the other. The quad with the 2 stroke engine will be faster in a drag race. The reason being the quad with the 2 stroke engine will weigh less.. It will also rev faster, and that will allow the 2 stroke to reach its peak hp faster...

 

yeah I have to agree
My 7 mil cub ran 4.0's all day and an ocasional high 3.9 in an oem chassis..........and i don't think my cub will ever be crying in the den wishing it were a cheetah......i've had one of them as well.......IMO the small cheetahs don't run as well as the small cubs......get into the big bores and 10+ stroke.....that is a different story........
BTW I have a drag chassis being built right now......3.8's here I come........
Also...I was at sicily island with my shee.....i'm sure you saw it......I'm sure you also saw the +14 arm on it.....and the tires being blown off at the line.....not making any excuses......but I hadn't anticipated sicily island being real sand.......everyone else calls fine dirt sand.....so I wasn't set up properly.........no big deal.....i've been beaten before........and I'm sure it will happen many more times........

and just so you know.....the guy that won the 2 stroke class there was a STOCK cylinder 4mil.......as you saw it was NO slouch.....
that just shows you that set up means MUCH more than a big motor..........My bike makes around 40-45 more hp than his.......and so did several other banshees there.....I know for a fact that there was another 7 mil cub and a 10 mil cub there as well........bottom line is he hooked up off the line so he spanked our a$$es to the 300' mark.....
come the next race down there.......those 150- lb 450 pilots better have thier goggles on...... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

 

looks like everybody agrees with me.

I win, you lose.

at this point you are just trying to discredit me because YOUR pride wont let you admit you're wrong. Its been fun. Next time try picking on a guy when his forte isnt horsepower.

maybe you and austin can get together and build a cub!

 

Is the question a 4mm cub Banshee against a 760 Craycraft Raptor in sand for 300' with stock frames (no major sections removed or replaced)?

Or, is the question a 7mm+ cub Banshee against 760 Craycraft Raptor in sand anywhere (flat or hill) with any frame?

I think #1 would be a good race with holeshot meaning a lot. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

well i was referring to the little discussion me and rockey were having.

honestly though ubet, i know i could make a stock stroke cub run harder then any single 4-stroke on the track. not being cocky because i build both. But a well setup cub will run very impressive. Stroke only makes em faster lol

 

I haven't seen anyone take your side that " a 2 stroke with an identical power curve to a 4 stroke ( hp for hp) is going to be faster"

That means with all else equal including weight. Any other backers on that statement???

 

If this is your idea of winning there is a city with very bright lights in the middle of the desert just waitng for you

 

Wow thats very original. You almost come up with that all by yourself.