i dont if anyone else is tired of hearing about how the ltr is going to be so great when in fact nobody but like suzuki has riddin it yet. and then people comparing it too the yfz. all they have to compare is on paper. its like football it may look good on paper but it doesnt always workout.

just my 2 cents on it.

 

Yeah I'm with you. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

Yeah at this point it's just a joke to most members, the intelligent ones anyway. The rest are the ones starting the threads and weighing in on the comparisons.

 

Im not as tired of hearing about it as I am the YFZ 450. Talk about a bike that has headlines on every magazine every month!

Back to the Slowzuki though. There are only 3 things about it that I like: EFI, wide arms, wide axle. Thats not enough to make me buy one. Ive never owned a Suzi, and never will.

 

in any shootout they will only take it to the track were not a whole lot a people ride but in trails or dunes it would probaly not do as good and thats were the trx and yfz do good as well as the track.

 

to be truthful to ourselves quads are getting just like cars or anything else, they are all pretty good quality and will be close in performance it is just a matter of small add on's and choice or marketing. In the old days one brand was always way better than another, but with today's ISO standards of manufacturing most companies are turning out good products.

 

Sorry warwgn, I just dont agree. There are vast numbers of widespread and significant problems with many of these bikes that are not constant from one manufacturer to the next. Suzuki has serious problems with first year machines. Yamaha has continually left owners of the yfz and raptor out in the cold. Kawasaki has at least one massive recall on every utility machine over 300cc. Polaris has noted and widespread problems with most of its releases from the 03 predator to the 04 600/700 and 05 800 among others.

If you mean we'll all get questionable quality, especially from first year bikes, regardless of the manufacturer then I will certainly agree with you. Performance wise you are correct, these bikes are becoming very similar. But one dealership to another you will end up with wild variations in product reliability and manufacturer support.

 

we close to saying the same Mad, first year runs usually have alot of problems. As for dealerships, and manufacture support , thats retail sales basicly and I didnt touch that. In my opinion thats always gonna be a big differance between companies as it should be, thats where the compititon comes in.

 

Personally i am tired about hearing so much about the yfz, 700 r, ltr 450. The z 400 is a good bike and so is the predator. Although i think that the banshee is and will always be king, some of these new bikes are not to bad

 

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