hey, i am tryin to decide between a raptor660 or a suzuki 400z, i want somtin fast....i do alot of fast trail riding, and titie wood ridin and stuff ,like that...i want somtin that will blast through the woods and out of the curves...and i wants somtin that is reliable and handles well also...i cant make my mind up, i know the raptor had more top speed....but for a 400, it aint behind by far at all.......someone help me decide?>>>!!!!!

 

if it was me i would purchase a raptor and order a lowering kit and wheel spacers. the raptor is faster all the way around then a z400 but from factory the z400 handles much better.

 

thansk man, i mean how low would u go if u was me, with the lowering kit mean better handlin in the air, and better handling period!!!?...i didnt really want to go low...but i know the raptor sets a little high, so?

 

Have you seen the new Suzuki 450's? I am a proud raptor owner but those 450's are SICK!!!! I hear they were getting hole shots all day long at Glen Helen BONE STOCK!!! Check em out!.

 

well at the time man i cant afford a new fourwheelier, thats why i was askin about the 400z....i know the new 450s r bad a$$..but, cant afford a new one so?

 

well what i was sayin about the lowerin kit, i went with a crj non adjustable kit. with a raptor you cant get an adjustable rear lowerin strut. look at my pics my raptor runs a crj lowerin kit and durablue wheel spacers. it handles so much better in the air and on the ground.

 

id go for the z400. remember to check into the corroding thing if its a 05/06 model Z (do a search).

raptors(660) have alot of torque but i'm just not crazy about how they handle.

as far as the new quadracer 450, its a ripper, allright....however, unless your trails are wider than the 50" bike, it will not be fun to ride trails or tight areas with. it just wasnt desinged for it. could you adapt it- sure you could spend $$$ to do about anything...but why? buy a bike that is better suited for your type of riding and put that money in the bank or throw it into modding the Z if you want more out of it later. you can make big changes in a z400's performance with a pipe, carb, cams, air filtration mods, etc. you get even more when you get it ported, and with the 434/440/450/470 kits from various perfomance centers. it will downright scream then. i think that you'd be happy with it stock for awhile, though...

i think the z400 is the best bang for the buck right now for features, performance, reliability and price. unless you want to shell out $7k on a new raptor 700R. i like it, but id wait for the 2007 model on that one.

 

thanks for the reply, but like u said about trail width, we ride rough , and wen i say rough i mean rough!!!!...the trails i ride , u dotn no wat to expect, theres creeks, and ruts, and rough loggin roads, and i mena i already have a utility fourwheelier, so thats y i am goin to get a racer now!!!...u know, i dont want to be pulled by a 4 weel drive all the time, but, i was jsut wonderin on wat u thank.....the only thang the lower kit takes away is wheelies!!!, and i love riding wheelies, !!!!...but i will thank about.....wat u said

 

the 660 is definately the way to go. THe 400 is not very reliable. I have found that from expirience. The raptor is much more low maintainance than the 400.

 

how can you say the 400 not realiable, they are very realiable. there are tons of aftermarket parts! suspention is great! i like raptors to but the only thing i dont like about a raptor is they feel a little tipsy on the trails,some people say they cant tell it others can. if i was u i'd try and ride both before you decide.03 400 frame weak they make gusset kits,01 rap. bad tranny.both are really great bike.really cant go wrong with either. good luck.