<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Well and the Fact that the Yami is a MUCH better quad </end quote></div> x2 on that!

 

Thank the EPA. If it were possible, they would require catalytic converters on cows.

 

I think initially gas mileage and economy was the primary push behind EFI in passenger automobiles. However, within the last 10 years, any economical gains with EFI have been lost. When I was growing up, we never had a ton of money, but we still went on family vacations to California, Colorado, etc... The whole family packed our Ford Econoline (carbuerated) van, and we used it as a camper to sleep cheap along the way. We got 15 MPG on the Highway on average. Today's SUVs with the very latest EFI technology struggle to do slightly better than this.

Conspiracy or not, it sure seems like the primary push behind all this technology is exactly what JTY2K and headpressure said. It's to throw more money at the dealers who need specialized (expensive) tools to work on these machines with the bells and whistles. As an IT person by trade, I'm all for useful new technologies, but I tell you, I've looked long and hard, and I've tried to rationalize the benefits of EFI, but I only see 2. 1) People in EXTREMELY cold climates that will be doing cold starts often, and 2) People using ATVs very often in multiple areas with widely varying altitudes.

Despite EFI being the wrong or right solution in the long run, it's here to stay... We might as well start saving up for when the multiple "black boxes" on our quads go bad and need hundreds of dollars of repairs.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: klier

I think initially gas mileage and economy was the primary push behind EFI in passenger automobiles. However, within the last 10 years, any economical gains with EFI have been lost. When I was growing up, we never had a ton of money, but we still went on family vacations to California, Colorado, etc... The whole family packed our Ford Econoline (carbuerated) van, and we used it as a camper to sleep cheap along the way. We got 15 MPG on the Highway on average. Today's SUVs with the very latest EFI technology struggle to do slightly better than this.



Conspiracy or not, it sure seems like the primary push behind all this technology is exactly what JTY2K and headpressure said. It's to throw more money at the dealers who need specialized (expensive) tools to work on these machines with the bells and whistles. As an IT person by trade, I'm all for useful new technologies, but I tell you, I've looked long and hard, and I've tried to rationalize the benefits of EFI, but I only see 2. 1) People in EXTREMELY cold climates that will be doing cold starts often, and 2) People using ATVs very often in multiple areas with widely varying altitudes.



Despite EFI being the wrong or right solution in the long run, it's here to stay... We might as well start saving up for when the multiple "black boxes" on our quads go bad and need hundreds of dollars of repairs.</end quote></div>

I will agree with what you are saying to a point but you are forgetting that by today standards you can take any manufacturer and compare simalr size engines to the ones frome say 10 years ago and since I am a Dodge guy I will compare a old Magnum 5.9 (360ci) to a 5.7 (345ci) Hemi. The 360 used to put out 245hp and 345ft lbs torque at its best ever output compard to a Hemi that the current time puts out 345hp and 375lb tq all while getting better MPG's. Granted we might not be getting a whole lot better MPG's we are learning to get more energy out of a drop a fuel than ever!

 

Exactly what Dodge57hemi said. The reason vehicles aren't getting much better fuel mileage is because EFI/newer technology is a two-edged sword. You can either make the same horsepower with better fuel mileage, or get similar fuel mileage with much more horsepower. Right now a lot of automotive manu's are going the latter route. I rather wish they would go the former route, but they are slowly getting there.

-Krait

 

Bells and whistles break. I wish companys would stop making stuff so complicated. I like basic stuff, plus they are cheaper

 

Point taken on the power vs. economy debate. With first generation EFI systems in quads, are we seeing either at this point? (compared to carbuerated motors)?

 

I was a person who though power steering was a useless add on,but on a slow trail ride my front wheels caught on some object and jerks the bars right out of my hands and they swung around and hit me in the ribs so hard I could not breathe for a few seconds. LOL

I wounder if power steering would of prevented that?

 

"New and improved" is what brings people into the showrooms. The more you bring in, the more chance of sales you have.

You don't see any type of motorized vehicle dealer advertising they have old, reliable machines. Not until you go talk to the used sales guy. Then all of a sudden you can't beat whatever it is they're trying to sell you.

 

Unlike cars though ATV are meant to be ridden in muddy dirty condition constantly. A flashing wrench to tell me its time to change the oil! Give me a break. Now with the newer Polaris if your battery dies the whole ATV stops dead and your walking,before you just pull started it and continued your days ride and bought a new battery next spring if you wanted to.