Wifes first big ride on the Grizz.
#1
We put on about 50 miles yesterday on a poker run. Most of the miles were a old rail road bed. So the ride was pretty fast. She liked the ride alot over the Forman she had before. She rode 5 hrs with no back ache, just sore arms and shoulders by hanging on. For the most part she liked the way the Grizz handled and steered on the fast ride. However things changed once we went on some tight trails. Between the steering being so light and the front being light, she had a hard time with the Grizz. Going on the tight trails going slow, if the front tires hit anything it would yank the handle bars, this happen many times to her. Then we came to a small but steep hill and the front came up on her very fast to the point the Grizz was vertical and the back rack is was kept it from landing on her, after that I took the Grizz the rest of the way. I also felt the handle bars grab on me. Not once does my Sportsman yank the handle bars going on ruff terrain. For the most part she liked the Grizz, but she is nervous about going on technical rides which is most of our riding. So the first thing I'm going to do is, get rid of the Bearclaws and put on the heaviest tire and rim that I can find. I'm thinking Mudrunners on steel and a winch for the front to make it alittle heavier, hoping it won't yank the bars and keep the front end down. So if anyone want's some Bearclaws on C-Series, I'll take best offer or trade for Mudrunners on chrome.
#2
You may want to adjust the prload dampening and see if that helps a bit. I don't think it waill make much difference though. The 660 Grizz has a very light steering touch. It's a little scary at speeds over 60 mph since it seems to give you almost a hydroplaning sensation with the front end. I've had several Polaris machine and the effort with the Grizz is considerably less. I have 27" ITP 589's with the C-series rims and it still has a light feel.
Before you change tries/rims it might be good to check into a steering dampener. I had one on my old Polaris 400SS and the SP500. It really does help the backslap affect from ruts, rocks, etc. I'm not too bothered by it with my Grizz right now but I might think about it in the future. Once you ride an atv with a dampener, it's hard not to have one.
I haven't looked into it, but does anyone know if someone makes an aftermarket steering dampener for the '02 Grizz?
Before you change tries/rims it might be good to check into a steering dampener. I had one on my old Polaris 400SS and the SP500. It really does help the backslap affect from ruts, rocks, etc. I'm not too bothered by it with my Grizz right now but I might think about it in the future. Once you ride an atv with a dampener, it's hard not to have one.
I haven't looked into it, but does anyone know if someone makes an aftermarket steering dampener for the '02 Grizz?
#3
I have 26" Mudrunners on my 660, I "licked" a big rock at higher speed,lost control /handelbars/,got airborne instantly.I am not sure, if the bigger and heavier tires is a solution.It's interesting observation...
Joe
Joe
#6
In my opinion, the front end is not too light. Compared to Polaris equipment the stering effort is considerably lighter. I believe that aftermarket tires will deep treads have a very narrow contact patch and can contribute to that floating steering feeling at high speeds. Many sport quads have this feeling without a dampener.
I'm not sure about the weight distribution front to rear, but it appears the Grizz motor is mounted more in mid-chassis compared to some quads.
I like the lighter effort, but if you are riding hard and hit something, it will let you know about it.
I'm not sure about the weight distribution front to rear, but it appears the Grizz motor is mounted more in mid-chassis compared to some quads.
I like the lighter effort, but if you are riding hard and hit something, it will let you know about it.
#7
How much are your front wheels offset than stock with the c-series rims?
If they are offset more it moves the tire centerline out. normally the
tire center line is directly over the ball joint pivot point. when it's
stock the tire won't have much leverage on the steering linkage. when you
use offset wheels you increase the leverage the tire has on the linkage
by moving the tire centerlin outward. That's why you feel it at the handle
bars. about the only fix is a steering damper like Radman was talking about.
If they are offset more it moves the tire centerline out. normally the
tire center line is directly over the ball joint pivot point. when it's
stock the tire won't have much leverage on the steering linkage. when you
use offset wheels you increase the leverage the tire has on the linkage
by moving the tire centerlin outward. That's why you feel it at the handle
bars. about the only fix is a steering damper like Radman was talking about.
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#8
I called everyone today, and no one makes a Dampner for the Grizz. One Co. said they have one for the 600 Grizz, but won't work on the 660.
As far as being a good hill climber, the Grizz is. However I think you have to pay a little more attention while going up. Due to the power and light front end, it will come up quick. But on tight hill climbs like going up a hill in which you have to turn on the hill, the front being light would sometimes just push in the corners. The front wheels didn't get enough traction to turn the Grizz. So it would take a couple of tries at it. Even tho the steering is very light on the Grizz, I thought I had better control on my SP500 on tuff and tight trails. On open area's the Grizz felt great untill you get up to high speeds where the front felt light again. This happened when I raced my brothers Scram 400X.(He got the hole shot at a bike lenth, then stayed that way until near the top where he was slooowly pulling away) I think the Grizz steering is too easy, because even tho it's easy, I felt more tired because I had to hold on harder. Overall the Grizz is a well built quad, and if I can find a steering dampner and put a little more weight in the front, it will be great.
As far as being a good hill climber, the Grizz is. However I think you have to pay a little more attention while going up. Due to the power and light front end, it will come up quick. But on tight hill climbs like going up a hill in which you have to turn on the hill, the front being light would sometimes just push in the corners. The front wheels didn't get enough traction to turn the Grizz. So it would take a couple of tries at it. Even tho the steering is very light on the Grizz, I thought I had better control on my SP500 on tuff and tight trails. On open area's the Grizz felt great untill you get up to high speeds where the front felt light again. This happened when I raced my brothers Scram 400X.(He got the hole shot at a bike lenth, then stayed that way until near the top where he was slooowly pulling away) I think the Grizz steering is too easy, because even tho it's easy, I felt more tired because I had to hold on harder. Overall the Grizz is a well built quad, and if I can find a steering dampner and put a little more weight in the front, it will be great.
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