Yamoto 150cc no spark
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I just went back through the whole thread. A lot of changes have been happening from the original post. First a 4 pin DC CDI, then a weird CDI, then the more standard 6 pin CDI (2 connectors - a 2 pin and a 4 pin).
In all of these the trigger voltage is reading 0.01 to 0.02 volts AC. This is wrong...
At one point you measured 142 ohms on the blue/white trigger wire. But were you measuring this down at the stator input looking directly into the engine (while disconnected from the wiring harness), or were you doing this from the timing trigger pin on the CDI connector? Some quads have kill switches that short the timing trigger line to ground to kill spark. If this were the case you would measure the blue white wire at the stator (disconnected from the wiring harness) as having the correct resistance, but if you measured at the CDI timing trigger pin it would be shorted to ground.
Again, 0.01 volts AC is wrong. A CDI won't trigger on that voltage. So either the voltage measurement here is wrong (thus this is just a red herring), the stator is bad, or the timing trigger line is shorted to ground in the harness (maybe through a kill switch). But three stators suggests strongly that it isn't the stator, and 142 ohms suggests that the timing trigger line isn't shorted to ground. But was the 142 ohms measured with the short removed? Like maybe you measured this down at the stator instead of at the CDI connector?
The kill switch wire hanging free (to the kill switch input to the CDI) is fine. But there can be other kill switches that wire into the timing trigger line - hence the questions above...
In all of these the trigger voltage is reading 0.01 to 0.02 volts AC. This is wrong...
At one point you measured 142 ohms on the blue/white trigger wire. But were you measuring this down at the stator input looking directly into the engine (while disconnected from the wiring harness), or were you doing this from the timing trigger pin on the CDI connector? Some quads have kill switches that short the timing trigger line to ground to kill spark. If this were the case you would measure the blue white wire at the stator (disconnected from the wiring harness) as having the correct resistance, but if you measured at the CDI timing trigger pin it would be shorted to ground.
Again, 0.01 volts AC is wrong. A CDI won't trigger on that voltage. So either the voltage measurement here is wrong (thus this is just a red herring), the stator is bad, or the timing trigger line is shorted to ground in the harness (maybe through a kill switch). But three stators suggests strongly that it isn't the stator, and 142 ohms suggests that the timing trigger line isn't shorted to ground. But was the 142 ohms measured with the short removed? Like maybe you measured this down at the stator instead of at the CDI connector?
The kill switch wire hanging free (to the kill switch input to the CDI) is fine. But there can be other kill switches that wire into the timing trigger line - hence the questions above...
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Yesterday at one point there was a voltage that came from the cdi output but very brief and not happened since, all wiring is disconnected so can't see it could be shorted to ground, we have put new ground connections to the bits were trying to run at the mo to eliminate others, even measuring down by the trigger pickup point the voltage is the same, im measuring this on 200v~ is that correct, can you think of anything else we may be doing wrong?
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Yesterday at one point there was a voltage that came from the cdi output but very brief and not happened since, all wiring is disconnected so can't see it could be shorted to ground, we have put new ground connections to the bits were trying to run at the mo to eliminate others, even measuring down by the trigger pickup point the voltage is the same, im measuring this on 200v~ is that correct, can you think of anything else we may be doing wrong?
We really need to solve this issue before going on. Bad data leads to bad conclusions. Good results depend on good data. I could be wrong, and I will freely admit it if I am, but we've got to get to a point where the data to be diagnosed is trusted and verifiable. Please don't get mad, but there is a lot here that does not make any sense....
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