3) General Discussions.. No problems but would like to discuss your Chinese quad experiences post in here.. You can also post in here why you hate your Chinese quad..

Yamoto 150cc no spark

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 31, 2011 | 02:01 AM
  #11  
Jonesyscoob's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Weekend Warrior
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Default

Just checked gap and smallest gauge I have is 0.51mm and that just fits in tight, I have 3 stators here all doing same thing, along with 2 cdi and 2 coil! Only thing that hasn't changed is flywheel!
 
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2011 | 02:14 AM
  #12  
Jonesyscoob's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Weekend Warrior
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Default

Just had 01.2vac on the coil primary but still only 0.01 on trigger wire
 
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2011 | 02:20 AM
  #13  
Jonesyscoob's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Weekend Warrior
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Default

Also is the kill switch wire ok to be hanging loose for the moment, will it work without being connected? Could we have ignition wiring wrong?
 
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2011 | 03:20 PM
  #14  
Jonesyscoob's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Weekend Warrior
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Default

New flywheel on this afternoon no different???
 
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:48 PM
  #15  
LynnEdwards's Avatar
Electrical Expert
Likes High Voltage In The Tub!
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,260
Likes: 14
From: Tracy, California, USA
Default

I just went back through the whole thread. A lot of changes have been happening from the original post. First a 4 pin DC CDI, then a weird CDI, then the more standard 6 pin CDI (2 connectors - a 2 pin and a 4 pin).

In all of these the trigger voltage is reading 0.01 to 0.02 volts AC. This is wrong...

At one point you measured 142 ohms on the blue/white trigger wire. But were you measuring this down at the stator input looking directly into the engine (while disconnected from the wiring harness), or were you doing this from the timing trigger pin on the CDI connector? Some quads have kill switches that short the timing trigger line to ground to kill spark. If this were the case you would measure the blue white wire at the stator (disconnected from the wiring harness) as having the correct resistance, but if you measured at the CDI timing trigger pin it would be shorted to ground.

Again, 0.01 volts AC is wrong. A CDI won't trigger on that voltage. So either the voltage measurement here is wrong (thus this is just a red herring), the stator is bad, or the timing trigger line is shorted to ground in the harness (maybe through a kill switch). But three stators suggests strongly that it isn't the stator, and 142 ohms suggests that the timing trigger line isn't shorted to ground. But was the 142 ohms measured with the short removed? Like maybe you measured this down at the stator instead of at the CDI connector?

The kill switch wire hanging free (to the kill switch input to the CDI) is fine. But there can be other kill switches that wire into the timing trigger line - hence the questions above...
 
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 12:06 AM
  #16  
Jonesyscoob's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Weekend Warrior
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Default

Yesterday at one point there was a voltage that came from the cdi output but very brief and not happened since, all wiring is disconnected so can't see it could be shorted to ground, we have put new ground connections to the bits were trying to run at the mo to eliminate others, even measuring down by the trigger pickup point the voltage is the same, im measuring this on 200v~ is that correct, can you think of anything else we may be doing wrong?
 
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 11:51 PM
  #17  
LynnEdwards's Avatar
Electrical Expert
Likes High Voltage In The Tub!
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,260
Likes: 14
From: Tracy, California, USA
Default

Originally Posted by Jonesyscoob
Yesterday at one point there was a voltage that came from the cdi output but very brief and not happened since, all wiring is disconnected so can't see it could be shorted to ground, we have put new ground connections to the bits were trying to run at the mo to eliminate others, even measuring down by the trigger pickup point the voltage is the same, im measuring this on 200v~ is that correct, can you think of anything else we may be doing wrong?
So you are measuring 0.01 volts to 0.02 volts AC on a 200 volt scale on the trigger line? What kind of meter are you using? What is the brand and model number? I'm having difficulty believing this. I don't think they make meters like that. Are you sure you didn't mean 0.1 volts instead of 0.01 volts? That would be a 1000% error. Any meter that would be able to measure to a 0.01 volts (10 millivolt) resolution would certainly be able to go lower than 200 volts full scale.

We really need to solve this issue before going on. Bad data leads to bad conclusions. Good results depend on good data. I could be wrong, and I will freely admit it if I am, but we've got to get to a point where the data to be diagnosed is trusted and verifiable. Please don't get mad, but there is a lot here that does not make any sense....
 
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2011 | 12:04 AM
  #18  
Jonesyscoob's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Weekend Warrior
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for all your help after swapping the flywheel and connecting back up the kill switches it now has spark
 
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2011 | 10:54 PM
  #19  
LynnEdwards's Avatar
Electrical Expert
Likes High Voltage In The Tub!
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,260
Likes: 14
From: Tracy, California, USA
Default

Originally Posted by Jonesyscoob
Thanks for all your help after swapping the flywheel and connecting back up the kill switches it now has spark
I'm glad you got it working....
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
pgamboa
Chinese Quads
18
Dec 24, 2023 11:52 AM
fordfaithful21
Polaris Ask an Expert! In fond memory of Old Polaris Tech.
9
Dec 7, 2015 05:52 PM
Slagpolaris
Introduce Yourself
5
Sep 5, 2015 09:41 PM
jeff mc
Dunes and Dune Machines
0
Sep 3, 2015 07:47 PM
vtech
Help With Forum Software!
1
Sep 2, 2015 05:59 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:28 AM.