H1 vs 650 Grizz
May 3, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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H1 vs 650 Grizz
If you want a big, heavy duty machine then get the H1. My buddy has a Grizz and I drive it sometimes, its a nice machine. But..
We've already bent his "bumpers", if you can even call them that. Hollow aluminum tubes that are purely for looks, yeh, we bent the crap out of them. It does handle nice in the woods, very nice, but it handles like crap on the open road. I felt like I was gonna die when we were up around 60mph. I think I could ride my cat around 80 and still feel stable.
Cat's aren't perfect either, but I do think you get a more durable worker by far. And they are made right here in MN, it's nice to have the MN pride. =)
We've already bent his "bumpers", if you can even call them that. Hollow aluminum tubes that are purely for looks, yeh, we bent the crap out of them. It does handle nice in the woods, very nice, but it handles like crap on the open road. I felt like I was gonna die when we were up around 60mph. I think I could ride my cat around 80 and still feel stable.
Cat's aren't perfect either, but I do think you get a more durable worker by far. And they are made right here in MN, it's nice to have the MN pride. =)
May 3, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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H1 vs 650 Grizz
Originally posted by: millsd
If you want something primarily for work and severe off-road action, get the cat. I have a V2 and it amazes me. I run over logs and huge rocks with NO issues, have pulled 10' oak logs, and plowed 12+ inches of snow in one swipe with my county plow. Plenty of low end power and plenty of weight...which is good for work...bad for trail riding.
If you're looking primarily for a trail riding machine, get the grizz. The steering is heavy in the cat, so you'll have a lot more fun sporting around with the grizz. When I looked to get mine, I seriously thought about the grizzly too...and people who have them seem to love them as much as us AC people. Plus, the quality is probably better on the grizzly. So...buy the AC for capabilities...or buy the grizzly for better quality/service and sporting around. Both will easily plow...
If you want something primarily for work and severe off-road action, get the cat. I have a V2 and it amazes me. I run over logs and huge rocks with NO issues, have pulled 10' oak logs, and plowed 12+ inches of snow in one swipe with my county plow. Plenty of low end power and plenty of weight...which is good for work...bad for trail riding.
If you're looking primarily for a trail riding machine, get the grizz. The steering is heavy in the cat, so you'll have a lot more fun sporting around with the grizz. When I looked to get mine, I seriously thought about the grizzly too...and people who have them seem to love them as much as us AC people. Plus, the quality is probably better on the grizzly. So...buy the AC for capabilities...or buy the grizzly for better quality/service and sporting around. Both will easily plow...
May 3, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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H1 vs 650 Grizz
I have a 2005 650 v2. It's been in the shop a pretty decent number of times. Quality of the metal on the spring adjusters was terrible. Tabs snapped off like plastic before they were replaced. Throttle had to be replaced as well. And even after being replaced and I still had issues, they found it was routed the wrong way causing other issues. Also, it seems the the mechanics/service from the dealers is very often poor.
All that said, I wouldn't trade my AC for anything. It's definitely one of the most capable workhorse atv's out there...but it's definitely not a primary for trailriding...steering is far too heavy.
All that said, I wouldn't trade my AC for anything. It's definitely one of the most capable workhorse atv's out there...but it's definitely not a primary for trailriding...steering is far too heavy.
May 3, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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Actually, already put more air in the tires. Also, got stiffer tires than the mt/r's that it comes with. Don't get me wrong, it's ok (esp in 2wd), but you can't compare the steering to the lighter grizz/brute forces/etc.
May 4, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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True, it will always have a heavier feel for steering, but I will take heavy that heavy steering at low speeds to have the rock solid feel when you hit top speed. Light steering at 60+ is not a positive feature, ride the grizz at top speed and then the Cat, you'll know what I mean.
May 4, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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why do you worry bout hard steering? just use more arm muscle lol or be like me go fast enough where you are just sliding sideways around the corners. alot of the people on the ute's have a hard time keeping up with me even the lil 650 prarie's with their straight axle. it is fun to take a machine that typically isn't made for the trails and ride it harder through the trails when the occasion calls for it.
May 4, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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The steering can be hard when you are in the slow tight stuff, but I guess no machine is perfect. I personally don't mind the harder steering in exchange for the high speed stability. Cuz I go fast a lot. =)
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