Having problems with the 97 AC 2X4 again
#1
I just took my AC to the dealer because of some charging issues I have been having with it and received some startling news. Supposedly this is what needs to be replaced: stator assembly $400.00, voltage regulator $207.00, and 3 hours of labor. The final price quoted to me after labor was north of $800.00. This is just rediculous!!!!!!!
Is there anyway I can get these parts cheeper?
Thanks,
Morgan
Is there anyway I can get these parts cheeper?
Thanks,
Morgan
#4
There is supposed to be a place in Theif River falls next to the AC factory that sells used AC parts. I seem to remember someone posting their contact info here recently but I personally do not have it.
Also labor will be high because I believe the motor must be removed from the machine and taken apart far enough to split the case. Ask them and if that is the case you can take the engine out of your machine and save some labor.
If they can do the job in 3hrs it will take you about 10-12 at least. They can test your voltage regulator to see if it HAS to be replaced. Then again, I believe there is a test for the stator as well. CHecks to see if its putting out the correct amount of juice.
SJ
Also labor will be high because I believe the motor must be removed from the machine and taken apart far enough to split the case. Ask them and if that is the case you can take the engine out of your machine and save some labor.
If they can do the job in 3hrs it will take you about 10-12 at least. They can test your voltage regulator to see if it HAS to be replaced. Then again, I believe there is a test for the stator as well. CHecks to see if its putting out the correct amount of juice.
SJ
#5
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: 02transam
I just took my AC to the dealer because of some charging issues I have been having with it and received some startling news. Supposedly this is what needs to be replaced: stator assembly $400.00, voltage regulator $207.00, and 3 hours of labor. The final price quoted to me after labor was north of $800.00. This is just rediculous!!!!!!!
Is there anyway I can get these parts cheeper?
Thanks,
Morgan</end quote></div>
Problem: Magneto does not charge
Condition Remedy
1. Lead wires/connections shorted - loose - open 1. Repair - replace - tighten lead wires
2. Magneto coils shorted - grounded - open 2. Replace magneto coils
3. Regulator/rectifier shorted - punctured 3. Replace regulator/rectifier
Problem: Magneto charges, but charging rate is below the specification
Condition Remedy
1. Lead wires shorted - open - loose (at terminals) 1. Repair - tighten lead wires
2. Stator coils (magneto) grounded - open 2. Replace stator coils
3. Regulator/rectifier defective 3. Replace regulator/rectifier
4. Electrolyte low 4. Add distilled water
5. Cell plates (battery) defective 5. Replace battery
As you can see above some of the causes.
I would start by checking the battery, then the lead wires and the ground. You may not need parts.
If you have a volt/ohm meter you can check the specs yourself. May save you some big bucks. May even be worth buying a service manual and follow the detail instructions in the book. I would rather spend $50 than $800 and if you still need to spend the $800 then at least you will know that the dealer was accurate.
If you do need part you may be able to find some second hand or you can check ebay or there are several web-stores that sell parts oem or otherwise.
I had an issue where it seem to be breaking down at the top end. Because mine was still under warranty I took it to the dealer and did not mess with it. After 6 visits to the dealer and my ATV spend most of the summer in the shop. They said the battery was perfect - wrong - it had no liquid at all in it, They replaced the coil, did a tune up, redid the valves, replaced the magneto.
Bottom line the carb was too rich and the battery was no good - Go figure.
If I would have had to pay the bill, to say the least I would have been BS, maybe even gone 'postal'... lol..
For example you could have something simple like a loose ground wire and they would say you need a new magneto. So buy the time they take the whole thing apart and put it back together (of course the ground gets put back on and tighten)... You pay a big bill, the problem is fixed and you are happy, the dealer is happy too. But you payed $400 bucks for a $10 job.
I just took my AC to the dealer because of some charging issues I have been having with it and received some startling news. Supposedly this is what needs to be replaced: stator assembly $400.00, voltage regulator $207.00, and 3 hours of labor. The final price quoted to me after labor was north of $800.00. This is just rediculous!!!!!!!
Is there anyway I can get these parts cheeper?
Thanks,
Morgan</end quote></div>
Problem: Magneto does not charge
Condition Remedy
1. Lead wires/connections shorted - loose - open 1. Repair - replace - tighten lead wires
2. Magneto coils shorted - grounded - open 2. Replace magneto coils
3. Regulator/rectifier shorted - punctured 3. Replace regulator/rectifier
Problem: Magneto charges, but charging rate is below the specification
Condition Remedy
1. Lead wires shorted - open - loose (at terminals) 1. Repair - tighten lead wires
2. Stator coils (magneto) grounded - open 2. Replace stator coils
3. Regulator/rectifier defective 3. Replace regulator/rectifier
4. Electrolyte low 4. Add distilled water
5. Cell plates (battery) defective 5. Replace battery
As you can see above some of the causes.
I would start by checking the battery, then the lead wires and the ground. You may not need parts.
If you have a volt/ohm meter you can check the specs yourself. May save you some big bucks. May even be worth buying a service manual and follow the detail instructions in the book. I would rather spend $50 than $800 and if you still need to spend the $800 then at least you will know that the dealer was accurate.
If you do need part you may be able to find some second hand or you can check ebay or there are several web-stores that sell parts oem or otherwise.
I had an issue where it seem to be breaking down at the top end. Because mine was still under warranty I took it to the dealer and did not mess with it. After 6 visits to the dealer and my ATV spend most of the summer in the shop. They said the battery was perfect - wrong - it had no liquid at all in it, They replaced the coil, did a tune up, redid the valves, replaced the magneto.
Bottom line the carb was too rich and the battery was no good - Go figure.
If I would have had to pay the bill, to say the least I would have been BS, maybe even gone 'postal'... lol..
For example you could have something simple like a loose ground wire and they would say you need a new magneto. So buy the time they take the whole thing apart and put it back together (of course the ground gets put back on and tighten)... You pay a big bill, the problem is fixed and you are happy, the dealer is happy too. But you payed $400 bucks for a $10 job.
#6
well they said that the magneto wasn't putting out enough juice and somehow managed to fry the voltage regulator. who knows?
anyway, thanks guys
ps, anybody want to buy a 97 AC? lol
anyway, thanks guys
ps, anybody want to buy a 97 AC? lol
#7
hey swampy you are referring to arctic cat salvage. only employee's can go in there and i believe a few select dealers. i know employees that work there but it is to much of a pain for me to get for anyone else. i did get a motor out of there for my 92 cougar for 440 dollars and it ran beautifully. my dealership got a whole rearend out of there for my 03 fourwheeler that was still under warranty but instead of ordering the rearend it was quicker for them to go there and get one that came off of a demo fourwheeler.
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