Don,t know how that is the 700xx is only rated 53hp at the crank. Same as the much lighter KTM 525 and Outlaw honda 700xx horse power
There are many more ATVs with much more hp then that. Even the 650 Cam-Am Outlander and Renegade is rated at 62hp. Never mined the 800 and 1000 models,

 

Ok so why would you go to crank horsepower numbers when a sport quad loses a lot less at the final drive then a automatic, shaft driven and 750 lbs utility atv.
The 700xx makes 41 horsepower to the rear wheels in stock form. Outlander 800s only put down 47 to the rear tires so you do the math. The outlander weighs 200 pounds more atleast. Spread that 6 horsepower out between 200 pounds and it is nothing. I have a outty 650 and a xx and the xx will absolutely kill the outty start to finish so that comparison is thrown out the window.
Next a Polaris outlaw 525 will only make 36 horsepower to the rear wheels in stock form. They are fast but I've never heard of a 700xx having a problem with a stock outlaw. Look at the motorcycle USA review with the raptor and 700xx. They give the raptor the win but they also noted that the 700xx was faster and felt it. They even have a dyno run and the 700xxs entire power curve was higher than the raptors from 2000 rpm - 7500rpm. Same thing went for the torque curve also.
Like I said the only stock atv the can dominate a 700xx in a wide open drag with equal skilled riders is the renegade 1000. Those suckers are quick.

 

I also see in that high lifter forum that you posted, someone said that it was just as fast if not faster than his renegade 800x.

 

There is also gearing to think about. I'm sure the Honda's gearing allows for a much higher speed than a CVT transmission.

 

Yea the xx is geared for fast paced desert riding which is why it excelled in baja, even after honda stopped sponsoring Wayne matlock race team.

Also that new scrambler 1000 looks cool but I doubt it is faster than the renegade 1000, 700xx or raptor 700. It weights almost 800 pounds dry!! Sure 88 hp from the crank but it's probably more like 68 to the wheels. No doubt a monster but it still weighs over 850 pounds with a full tank of gas. That's still not higher than a 700xx or raptor power/weight wise

 

I don't think any Polaris CVT will ever be the fastest because they just aren't geared that way.

P.S. The Scrambler 1000 may have the quickest acceleration but I doubt it has the highest top speed.

 

people need to drop the antiquated thinking that cvt doesn't stack up to a gear box - it's not an issue- they both use friction to transfer power to the rear wheels; gear box via clutch, cvt via belt-
a gear box is only as good as the clutch it uses to get that power to the wheels- likewise on the cvt. some of the most powerful sleds, bikes and automobiles use cvt's.

there's so many variables to factor in between a renegade 1000 vs raptor 700 vs scrambler 850 vs XX 700- that it's ridiculous to compare them. each is king in its own element.




this rene 800 is on that Honda & raptor's 700 *** like glue- you can hear the rene rider is actually just blipping the throttle and releasing it (I do the same when I'm behind someone on my 1000 outty xt) and is easily staying on their asses- forget about the 1000 rene.






I don't know what the sport 700's have for tire size- but the rene has a pretty large tire at 25" - a lot larger than the 700 sports. I can't imagine the tire shredding that would happen if the rene had the smaller sport tires on it-
my rene 800x would smoke the 25" tires on tar like they weren't even there.

one thing that's for certain... there's been an awesome trend over the past 4-5 years where manufacturers are blurring that line between the sport quad and the 4x4 atv- Polaris & BRP (Can-Am / Rotax) have been the two companies driving that change more than any other manufacturer. It's pretty awesome watching what these engineers dream up and turn into mini land roving tanks (or rockets!)

 

Whats CVT have to do with top speed? All snowmolbiles are CVT and do 100+ mph ,even my old 1998 Polaris XC500cc did 100mph and that far from conciderered a high performance class sled today.
My grand fathers 1996 2 up touring 700 Arctic Cat ice fishing sled does 108mph anytime of the day.

I never open it up yet but my 800 e-tech Ski-doo CVT would do 120mph without a problem.
ATVs are just snowmobiles with wheels instead of skis and a track.

 

If they are geared lower its do to their tranny not the CVT.

Here is a older 700XC Polaris video far from Polaris flag ship CVT sled now a days. Even the helicopter is having trouble keeping up to film.
BTW they go even quicker on packed snow or ice then open water .

Polaris could put a new CVT 800 switchback motor in a ATV and call the hp and speed debate over . Problem is Can-AM(800e-tech), Arctic Cat(FX1100) and Yamaha (1100 Nytro) could do the same.

 

That’s basically my point- there’s no significant performance/ hp drop with a cvt over gear box.

Yet a lot of people will still claim there is.

I’ve found- just from engaging in conversations with others from boardto board- that a lot of people feel a cvt is subpar- which is an antiquated wayof thinking.

Modern cvt’s are pretty much as bullet proof as any moderngear box- and when it comes time to spend money replacing parts on a cvt vsgear box… the cvt is much cheaper and “do-it-yourself”

Out of the dozens of 4x4 atv’s I’ve owned- all were cvtexcept for my two honda rincon’s- and BOTH my low mileage Rincon’s were the only atv’s to ever have clutching /tranny issues!!!