kingquad 450 is in a full size bigbore chassis, id put it in the 500 class for size and price, plus it has all the bells and whistles, its not in the 400 class for utilities.

 

TLC said "Not sure how a ATV you do not have to shift at all and has a single lever all brake system with power steering can be harder to ride than a shifting model with back and front brak controls."

i really think that the single lever braking systems are one of the worst things on an atv i have ever seen, i really like that i can control my front and rear brake sepratly.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: reconranger

Sport quads are about going fast....but utes are about being able to pick your way through a rock crawling section on a super stable machine...and that is what the Rancher has in spades!!!



There are always these same guys who trot out the CARB "at the crank" horsepower figures, when they need to make their favorite ride look better than it actually is! At the crank means nothing in the real world, where things like weight, tire size, efficiency of the transmission, and a hundred other things come into play.



And...anybody who thinks the Rancher 420 is "slow", has never ridden one. Word is that the new Rancher AT (gear-on-gear twin clutch automatic transmission!) will rip your arms out of their sockets in the first three gears if you aren't easy on the throtle...and you know a gear-on-gear trans is going to be way more efficient than a rubber band drive!</end quote></div>

That's only true if someone's favorite quad is a Arctic Cat, Can-Am, Kawasaki, Polaris, Suzuki, Yamaha... you get the picture. They ALL look good compared to Honda. HONDA UTILITY QUADS ARE VERY WEAK COMPARED TO ALL OTHER BRANDS. Period. You claim Honda has a more efficient transmission. Now who's trying to make their favorite quad look better than it actually is???

5 or 10 extra horsepower from the same size engine is a good thing no matter what kind of transmission you have. And utes are about <u>a lot</u> of different things, including going fast too when conditions allow it.

Hmm, rock-crawling with a fraction of the ground clearace of other utes? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!

"Rubber band drive". Yeah. Riiight. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Kevlar is stronger than steel, so those Kevlar "rubber bands" are pretty tough. Tough enough to use instead of a drive chain on street bikes. And if it ever does break you can replace it for less than $50. That's a heck of a lot cheaper getting gears replaced in a Honda transmission. There's more than one way to measure efficiency, such as cost efficiency.