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04-28-2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by: DSNUT
I never thought of that. Would running E85 in our cars be similar to running alky in our bikes? basically alky is half the cost of race gas but you use over twice as much to do the same amount of riding.........so it is a net loss as far as cost of fuel is concerned.
I am not saying E85 will have this same disadvantage. I am asking[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: Doctorturbo
Alky is crummy fuel (Energy wise) and always will be. The energy transfer is 1+ to 1 so you save nothing. It takes as much energy to make this stuff as to use it. It's even worse than propane and that sucks too.
Here is the answer to your question BlackHawk. For some reason my puter won't link this morning.
http://www.e85fuel.com/database/search.php
Alky is crummy fuel (Energy wise) and always will be. The energy transfer is 1+ to 1 so you save nothing. It takes as much energy to make this stuff as to use it. It's even worse than propane and that sucks too.
Here is the answer to your question BlackHawk. For some reason my puter won't link this morning.
http://www.e85fuel.com/database/search.php
I am not saying E85 will have this same disadvantage. I am asking[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
However, as far as quads go, with the right jetting and piston compression, I dont see why a person couldnt run E85 in a quad now.
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04-28-2006 | 12:12 PM
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#43
04-28-2006 | 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by: Scootergptx
You realize that water (bottled) is more expensive than gasoline? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: OregonDunePatrol Until we find vehicles the run on water, I doubt everyone will be satisfied.
Tell me Scootergptx, you DIDNT stay in a Holiday Inn express last night did you?
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04-28-2006 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Scootergptx
You realize that water (bottled) is more expensive than gasoline? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: OregonDunePatrol Until we find vehicles the run on water, I doubt everyone will be satisfied.
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04-28-2006 | 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by: xFreebirdx
Makes you wonder how long it will be till you see Exxon on the side of a water bottle. lol. =]
Originally posted by: Scootergptx
You realize that water (bottled) is more expensive than gasoline? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: OregonDunePatrol Until we find vehicles the run on water, I doubt everyone will be satisfied.
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04-28-2006 | 12:19 PM
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Right now Brazil is 100% independent of any foreign energy through the production of Ethanol. Sugar is grown to produce the fuel, the stalks are burned to provide energy to run the processing facility, the farms themselves are 100% self sustained by their own crop and by product. Over 70% of the vehicles ran in Brazil are flex fuel.
Granted, there are probabaly an average of 4 Brazilians for every car (the opposite is true in the US) but we have enough natural resources to vastly reduce the need for foreign energy.
There are natural gas pipelines not even in USE because that huge surplus would drive the price way down (darn).
Don't even get me started on solar energy <sigh> possibly the least expensive and easiest energy option available to almost every home owner in the country.
As long as BIG ENERGY is bribing our politicians this won't change either.
You think your local electricity company is in any hurry to provide you with essentially free power? Depending on usage, a typical homeowner COULD realize free power within 4-6 years after installing a solar system.
Granted, there are probabaly an average of 4 Brazilians for every car (the opposite is true in the US) but we have enough natural resources to vastly reduce the need for foreign energy.
There are natural gas pipelines not even in USE because that huge surplus would drive the price way down (darn).
Don't even get me started on solar energy <sigh> possibly the least expensive and easiest energy option available to almost every home owner in the country.
As long as BIG ENERGY is bribing our politicians this won't change either.
You think your local electricity company is in any hurry to provide you with essentially free power? Depending on usage, a typical homeowner COULD realize free power within 4-6 years after installing a solar system.
#47
04-28-2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by: raidermike67
Right now Brazil is 100% independent of any foreign energy through the production of Ethanol. Sugar is grown to produce the fuel, the stalks are burned to provide energy to run the processing facility, the farms themselves are 100% self sustained by their own crop and by product. Over 70% of the vehicles ran in Brazil are flex fuel.
Granted, there are probabaly an average of 4 Brazilians for every car (the opposite is true in the US) but we have enough natural resources to vastly reduce the need for foreign energy.
There are natural gas pipelines not even in USE because that huge surplus would drive the price way down (darn).
Don't even get me started on solar energy <sigh> possibly the least expensive and easiest energy option available to almost every home owner in the country.
As long as BIG ENERGY is bribing our politicians this won't change either.
You think your local electricity company is in any hurry to provide you with essentially free power? Depending on usage, a typical homeowner COULD realize free power within 4-6 years after installing a solar system.
Right now Brazil is 100% independent of any foreign energy through the production of Ethanol. Sugar is grown to produce the fuel, the stalks are burned to provide energy to run the processing facility, the farms themselves are 100% self sustained by their own crop and by product. Over 70% of the vehicles ran in Brazil are flex fuel.
Granted, there are probabaly an average of 4 Brazilians for every car (the opposite is true in the US) but we have enough natural resources to vastly reduce the need for foreign energy.
There are natural gas pipelines not even in USE because that huge surplus would drive the price way down (darn).
Don't even get me started on solar energy <sigh> possibly the least expensive and easiest energy option available to almost every home owner in the country.
As long as BIG ENERGY is bribing our politicians this won't change either.
You think your local electricity company is in any hurry to provide you with essentially free power? Depending on usage, a typical homeowner COULD realize free power within 4-6 years after installing a solar system.
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04-28-2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by: xFreebirdx
Careful making positive statements like that, the big oil companys may have to have you exterminated. lol. =]
Originally posted by: raidermike67
Right now Brazil is 100% independent of any foreign energy through the production of Ethanol. Sugar is grown to produce the fuel, the stalks are burned to provide energy to run the processing facility, the farms themselves are 100% self sustained by their own crop and by product. Over 70% of the vehicles ran in Brazil are flex fuel.
Granted, there are probabaly an average of 4 Brazilians for every car (the opposite is true in the US) but we have enough natural resources to vastly reduce the need for foreign energy.
There are natural gas pipelines not even in USE because that huge surplus would drive the price way down (darn).
Don't even get me started on solar energy <sigh> possibly the least expensive and easiest energy option available to almost every home owner in the country.
As long as BIG ENERGY is bribing our politicians this won't change either.
You think your local electricity company is in any hurry to provide you with essentially free power? Depending on usage, a typical homeowner COULD realize free power within 4-6 years after installing a solar system.
Right now Brazil is 100% independent of any foreign energy through the production of Ethanol. Sugar is grown to produce the fuel, the stalks are burned to provide energy to run the processing facility, the farms themselves are 100% self sustained by their own crop and by product. Over 70% of the vehicles ran in Brazil are flex fuel.
Granted, there are probabaly an average of 4 Brazilians for every car (the opposite is true in the US) but we have enough natural resources to vastly reduce the need for foreign energy.
There are natural gas pipelines not even in USE because that huge surplus would drive the price way down (darn).
Don't even get me started on solar energy <sigh> possibly the least expensive and easiest energy option available to almost every home owner in the country.
As long as BIG ENERGY is bribing our politicians this won't change either.
You think your local electricity company is in any hurry to provide you with essentially free power? Depending on usage, a typical homeowner COULD realize free power within 4-6 years after installing a solar system.
Yep...Brazil is leveling the last bit on rainforest as we speak to grow more corn...
#49
04-28-2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by: squeege
Yep...Brazil is leveling the last bit on rainforest as we speak to grow more corn...
Originally posted by: xFreebirdx
Careful making positive statements like that, the big oil companys may have to have you exterminated. lol. =]
Originally posted by: raidermike67
Right now Brazil is 100% independent of any foreign energy through the production of Ethanol. Sugar is grown to produce the fuel, the stalks are burned to provide energy to run the processing facility, the farms themselves are 100% self sustained by their own crop and by product. Over 70% of the vehicles ran in Brazil are flex fuel.
Granted, there are probabaly an average of 4 Brazilians for every car (the opposite is true in the US) but we have enough natural resources to vastly reduce the need for foreign energy.
There are natural gas pipelines not even in USE because that huge surplus would drive the price way down (darn).
Don't even get me started on solar energy <sigh> possibly the least expensive and easiest energy option available to almost every home owner in the country.
As long as BIG ENERGY is bribing our politicians this won't change either.
You think your local electricity company is in any hurry to provide you with essentially free power? Depending on usage, a typical homeowner COULD realize free power within 4-6 years after installing a solar system.
Right now Brazil is 100% independent of any foreign energy through the production of Ethanol. Sugar is grown to produce the fuel, the stalks are burned to provide energy to run the processing facility, the farms themselves are 100% self sustained by their own crop and by product. Over 70% of the vehicles ran in Brazil are flex fuel.
Granted, there are probabaly an average of 4 Brazilians for every car (the opposite is true in the US) but we have enough natural resources to vastly reduce the need for foreign energy.
There are natural gas pipelines not even in USE because that huge surplus would drive the price way down (darn).
Don't even get me started on solar energy <sigh> possibly the least expensive and easiest energy option available to almost every home owner in the country.
As long as BIG ENERGY is bribing our politicians this won't change either.
You think your local electricity company is in any hurry to provide you with essentially free power? Depending on usage, a typical homeowner COULD realize free power within 4-6 years after installing a solar system.
Yep...Brazil is leveling the last bit on rainforest as we speak to grow more corn...
Yep ... This is why nothing ever gets done in this country. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]
Tell me somthing squeege, do you actually KNOW that Brazil is leveling rainforests to grow corn? I'd sure like to see your information.
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04-28-2006 | 01:04 PM
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