Wow holly you really are the dumbest f**k head i've ever met on the forums... Were did I ever say I'm the greatest yada yada yada? Thats right I didnt!! Rebuild your s**t quad for a couple of grand each time doesnt bother me it's your choice...And I knew that was sarcasm so go f**k yourself...Have fun douchebag

 

WOW, did Holly touch a nerve?

That reply is so lame its cripple. =]

 

hey got smoked, i would almost bet that your a raider fan also the way you came off like that. how come if a ds gets beat by another bike its no big deal. but the first time you yfzz or another bike loses to a ds theres always an excuse and they want to fight. i think you need to go back to the yamaha section with an attitude like that, i too used to be the same snott nosed punk that was greater than everyone else no matter what it was. what your doing has a word but i cant remember what its called, when you feel miserable inside you want everyone else to be just as miserable, leave fat holly alone as with crazypainter, especialy crazy becouse he is painting our harley stuff. shoot all your bad coments towards me, i have been in the same place that you are now and i know what it feels like so i will just take it with a grain of salt becouse i know its really a mental disease you have that some welbrutin or prozack cant handal.

 

Since it is only your second day on the forums, and you have a wopping 48 posts, and considering that you have already made so many friends here I will take that as a compliment. Since you don't have any friends I will be your friend and I will try to help you with apparent terets syndrome... I know life can be difficult when foul language spews out of your mounth uncontrolably, but we can work through this together. Lets try this... settle down, take a deep breath... and then go the bike shop to buy a new set of rings cause you will need them very soon.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] In the mean time as I have said before I'll be riding... actually its getting hot here in So Cal, and the 2 smokes are hanging up their hats for the season... for some reason those thing seem to blow up when you try to ride them in the desert when it 115 degrees... me and my Bomb will be crusing the dunes no matter what the temp is... while your sitting there go ahead and tear down your bike. And lighten up a little, this is supposed to be fun. Quit acting like we have never owned 2 smokes... most of the guys around here were riding 2 smokes before you were a stain on the inside of you daddy's boxer shorts. Have a great day, I know we are going to be pals forever.

 

Sounds good buddy...But you had a flaw in your post, I know it's hard to believe you had a flaw in your response...The banshee was created for desert racing but your telling me they cant handle heat, but who knows? Your a load that should have been swallowed...



Have a nice day!

 

yah, it takes very little money to make a YFZ rip. A good pipe and intake really waken these little things up. 2Big, the reason you kept killing it is the internals are lightened up sooooo much so the motor can rev quickly, there isn't much inertia to help the motor get your azz moving[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

You have to get the rpms up to about 4k before it as enough torque to roll.

The YFZ will out run bikes that have better power to weight ratio's because it revs so quickly. Another advantage they have is a close ratio 5 speed. The DS motor has large gaps between gears which means we have to build motors with extremely broad torque curves before we can really pull. Broad torque curves cost money[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

The problem with the YFZ is how delicate the motor has to be to rev this quickly. I actually think the YFZ motor is not as tough as a banshee motor. I think they are reliable when close to stock, but when you start pushing the limits (65 hp on all motor) they aren't going to go very long without a rebuild. The DS800 can be raced for 2 years at 115 hp on NOS. The YFZ's that running 85 hp on NOS have to be rebuilt after a race weekend and often times don't make it all weekend. I am sure there are some exceptions but...........

Yamaha asks YFZ owners to replace their piston after 120 hours. In the race world, the YFZ is close to its limits. The DS is still exploring the limitations of displacement. We haven't even gotten to the point of needing billet cranks and transmissions to handle the power. As long as there is a single cylinder 4-stroke class, the DS motor has the basic building blocks to make more power than any other motor out there.



As far as you, Smkmup...............there are a few people who really know how to stay on top of their tune on a 2-stroke. Those few can make lots of power reliably. Most, like me, just like to make more power but don't know enough or care to test and tune every day to insure that conditions are right. 4-strokes allow a large group of people to have lots of power that is reliable and once they are tuned in, you just ride them and change the oil from time to time.

Reliability of 2-strokes? Bottom line.........just because they have the potential to be reliable does not in any way make it commonplace.

 

Smkmup - Buddy, I think the biggest problem here (actually a tragedy) is the lack of tools your parents gave you to work with. You might be smart enough to function but this level of interaction..............[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] Good, parents will make it worth your while to grow out of this level of behavior before you turn 13. Obviously you were slighted in this area because I am willing to bet you are much older than 13[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

I'm not going to rip you a new one. Once a guy is old enough to be independent, those of us in the real world have very little leverage to help you learn that this is unacceptable behavior. Your parents are helpless to help you and so are we by this time.

These tendencies that you are displaying are going to make your life very hard until you learn what would have been so easy to learn when you were a child.

What a tragedy[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

 

Dude, thats more like it less profanity and more facts... the fact of the matter is that I doubt you have ever even seen the California dunes much less have any experience in them. Every two stroke inluding three built Banshees, and three build 250R's in the group that I ride with cannot ride when the temp gets past 90 degrees. They spew coolant within minutes of starting up. They start talking about their last trip in late April. Have I seen Banshees in the dunes mid August... yes. Do they have big bore kits and 65hp as you claim you have... he!! no. They are nearly stock. So you tell me, have you ever been to Glamis in mid August... yea I didn't think so. Stick to what you know there ya little fart sniffer.

 

Alright dude. Comments like that aimed at me just might get me to drive to Michigan. I even told you we would be in Utah, split the difference and see what you go. Or even better, I know a guy in LA that has just a little 'ol bolt on bike that would be more then happy to race with you. The Planet Sand races were not too far from you, you could have gone there and proved you crap. How about Clash of the Titans, try that one out. Hey you know I know there is another one up coming out there in the east, you should give it a try.

You language and personal attacks are (once again) not needed in this kind of debate. If you wish to debate the topic with us, we are more then happy to provide that. However, this is not the group of people to be attacking personally with the kind of language you use. When people get that emotional over a topic, it has been my experiance that they either really are that uninformed and have nothing more of useful info. Or are just handicapped with a permanent inmaturity. I feel for you, that is tuff.

BTW, if we do ever meet on the sand....Once my 300 lb ****, and 500 lb DS beat you heads up....I will go get our Banshee of the trailor and do it again...Late

 

I cant say I've ever been to Glamis so I dont have any facts to support your heat issues...I sure would like to go there though...If I didnt work full time and go to college full time I would make it over there...

And for the rest of you hipocrits complaing about personal attacks quit crying...dont act like you didnt do the same...