How much weight is saved going from steel to aluminum wheels and removing the steel racks? Anywhere else a few lbs could be shaved?

 

I think I read somewhere about 40lbs. Don't know where else you could save... there's got to be something though.

 

Well I looked up the spec's, the 650 is 649 lbs and the 800 is 639 the only difference is in the wheels/tires so I'm going to presume 2.5 lbs per wheel=10 lbs, the Renegade comes in at 600 lbs, so that leaves about 40 lbs for the racks and anything else?? Even smaller wheels/tires? Less front bumper, no grab bar in the back?

 

How about a forged alu. spar frame and rear suspension? sure.