thats your opinion that they are at the top. these days they all make great machines though. as far as the frame issues ihave heard about more bent up can-ams then anything else, but no i have no experience with them. sucks you gotta buy an insert when it should be stronger from the factory

 

After all our usual hijinks, how do you like the Foreman? Curious to know.

 

is it the new 2012 foreman? if so id be interested in hearing how you like it too

 

amen to that!

show me a can-am with a twisted frame and I'l show you an atv that was rammed into a tree at 30mph, rolled down a mountain or was totally beat to crap!
Seems like the people who complain the most about can-am frames, are the people who have never owned one- or the people who clipped a tree flying down a trail (which would damage any atv).
If it's such an issue, just add a $60 insert! Hardly a deal breaker!

 

i bet the quads are excellent and do agree you'd have to hit a tree to do that kind of damage. they could do better on there prices though... though pretty much all the manufacturers could. i tell people what quads cost today and they cant believe people spend over 10 grand on a quad you take into mud and the woods

 

I spent a lot of time researching and looking at the 3 sporty/utility machines. I crawled under some of them and looked at features and write-ups. We went with the Renegade (replaced a solid workhorse of a quad, Polaris ATP). No chain, tons more power than the Wolverine or Scrambler, and fuel injected (it is cold here and we ride almost all year). After spending a couple months on a Can-Am forum the one recurring theme (other than they are fast) was the spar frame. It IS weak in comparison to a regular frame structure. I wouldn't even bother putting a frame insert or skid plates on if all you ride are smooth trails or sand. But, here in New England, it's rocks, more rocks, tree roots, deep mud and water holes, more rocks,etc. It was good insurance to do the insert. Even before Can-Am went to a new frame for some of the 2012s they did a minor fix on the 2011s by putting an X shaped brace in the spar frame where the front A-arms connected to the spar. That was the spot where the frame was more likely to crumple. So, we did the insert and haven't had any problems.

I do know that Polaris have a strong frame. I was going at a good clip up a trail and slid to the outside of a corner and hit a root sticking up 15" or so. It brought my quad to an immediate stop. I sprained my wrist, almost went over the bars, and got off expecting to see something bent. Not a ripple on the frame. Looking at my son's Renegade I'm not so sure it would have taken the hit as well. Just my own .02 worth.

 

not only that the year before that they also added a plastic skid too... didnt know they made those x shaped braces in 11'. good info

 

I get tired of the 'frame' issue.

 

3 red x'es

 

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