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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 09:10 PM
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tried a new rectifier but still wont charge,it appears that the stator is working, here are some AC voltages(at high idle)
Yellow to white 8.5
yellow to green 12 to 30
white to green 10.6
not sure what all to check any help would be appreciated.its a 4 wire plug at rectifier.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 03:40 PM
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You need more than 12volts to charge a 12v battery. If the output from the rectifier is below 12 then either rectifier or stator is bad. If you've changed the rectifier it sounds like its the stator
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 12:47 PM
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Unsub, thanks for the reply, there is no doubt there has to be more than 12V to charge the battery, high 13s to low 14s, I guess I was hoping someone may be able to look at the voltages on the stator to see if these were in an acceptable range. there seems to be alot of rectifiers that look the same and are different on inside so wont work in all applications.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2017 | 10:45 PM
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I would check to make sure that the ground on the regulator connector has good continuity to ground. Than test the resistance on the stator, yellow to white with the regulator unhooked. From the diagram I located it looks like it should be around 1.2 ohms. Also verify that you have good continuity from the regulator connector to the battery, the red wire.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 10:39 PM
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Thanks for the help, I have continuity from the ground wire at rectifier to battery ground and also red wire at rectifier (plugged in) to battery so that's all ok, yellow to white has ohm reading of 2.7 .... what does that tell you?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2017 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Pgfab
Thanks for the help, I have continuity from the ground wire at rectifier to battery ground and also red wire at rectifier (plugged in) to battery so that's all ok, yellow to white has ohm reading of 2.7 .... what does that tell you?
When you testing voltage output across the yellow to white were you reading in ac volts? The voltage out of the stator will be in ac volts which the rectifier side of the regulator turns into direct current to charge the battery and run the electronics. I would test the output voltage with the regulator unhooked and with ac voltage as your setting on the multimeter and see what you get. Most information I have found states 9.5 volts ac is what you are looking for. This is lower than the D.C. Output of the regulator, but the capacitors in the regulator will step it up to what should be higher than battery voltage inside the regulator. If you are just a bit lower than that than you might be getting just not quite enough voltage to charge or maintain the battery.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bryanwheat
When you testing voltage output across the yellow to white were you reading in ac volts? The voltage out of the stator will be in ac volts which the rectifier side of the regulator turns into direct current to charge the battery and run the electronics. I would test the output voltage with the regulator unhooked and with ac voltage as your setting on the multimeter and see what you get. Most information I have found states 9.5 volts ac is what you are looking for. This is lower than the D.C. Output of the regulator, but the capacitors in the regulator will step it up to what should be higher than battery voltage inside the regulator. If you are just a bit lower than that than you might be getting just not quite enough voltage to charge or maintain the battery.
thanks, yes I was testing in ac volts, at high idle yellow to white was 8.5 volts, I ordered a stator and tried it when it came in, it wouldn't start with new stator, it had spark but just too weak. So I've ordered another one I'll try it when it gets here.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pgfab
thanks, yes I was testing in ac volts, at high idle yellow to white was 8.5 volts, I ordered a stator and tried it when it came in, it wouldn't start with new stator, it had spark but just too weak. So I've ordered another one I'll try it when it gets here.
Did you ever find out what the problem was?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 02:51 AM
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This thread is a bit of a waste of time. There are several different alternator systems, three wire three phase, two wire three phase and two wire single phase, plus some have the windings tapped to give more power from one phase than others. As original poster seemed to be getting volts between earth and one wire (yellow to green 30v) it looks like it is a two wire three phase set up, (earth is used as the third stator wire) and, as the voltages differ between the phases, an asymmetric set up for stator coils. Seems odd for such a big voltage difference, so it could just be a shorted coil though. Regulator would need to be one for a two wire three phase system.
 
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