Calling all you math heads, answer me this!
#121
Originally posted by: BryceGTX
Tell me what 1/3 is?? Is it 0.3 or 0.33 or 0.333 or 0.3333.. Not sure.. it is not exact.
Tell me what velocity is? We know it as the derivative of the position function. The derivative is defined as the limit of the delta position divided by the delta time as the delta time goes to zero. Doesn't sound too exact to me.
Tell me how fast your car is going. Is it going 50 mph or 50.1 or 50.12 or 50.123. Doesn't sound to exact to me.
The problem is that math is an absolute, it's NOT based on assumptions. It's either right or it's wrong. There is no inbetween of math. 1+1=2, not somewere around 2. Not 3 because we were not sure it 1 was actually 1. If you are claiming to solve a problem with math, you must have an absolute answer. If the answer isn't absolute, the math isn't solved.
Tell me what velocity is? We know it as the derivative of the position function. The derivative is defined as the limit of the delta position divided by the delta time as the delta time goes to zero. Doesn't sound too exact to me.
Tell me how fast your car is going. Is it going 50 mph or 50.1 or 50.12 or 50.123. Doesn't sound to exact to me.
1/3 is 1 divided by three. The answer is .3 repeating infinatly.
If you have absolute numbers to plug into the velocity formula, you get an absolute answer.
The "speed" of my car is not a mathmatical equation. 50, 50.1, 50.12, or 50.123 are simply numbers that could be the answer to an equation that determines my velocity, or speed.
To argue that math is not absolute, cost you all credability.
I was going to actually look at the dyno you linked to, but your rebutals have gotten less and less factual and less intelligent. If it's like the 18 that I found that were rated to handle the HP, they would in no way work on a nitro-methane motor. They were designed for steady state, turbine, gas or diesel motors.
BTW, because I have seen something does not mean that I have it. I'm sorry, the top fuel team that was showing me around does not hand out copies of their telemetry. I know, it's silly of them.
#122
While that is a chassis dyno, if you read about it you will find it's purpose. Is was designed to provide a load to simulate road conditions, not to measure HP. It does take a power measurement to determine the load to apply, but that measurement is descibed as a secondary purpose and not expressed in any common way. In actuallity, it method of applying a load has since proven to be unreliable as it uses a disk brake that has shown to change drag co-efficient as it heats up. Modern load control dyno's use a watter brake or eddy-current for load. While you did your research to find a dyno, you did nothing to disprove my statements. The infomation you provided has no relavence to our "discussion". It simply showed that Mr. Dobeck is not the only person to invent a chassis dyno, I will concide that point although I'm not sure of it's importance.
#123
My entire point has been that you can't prove how close or far off your calculations are! What part of that do you fail to understand! If you retained what you read, I stated something along the lines of you could be as close as any guess. I MAINTAIN THAT KNOWONE CAN DETERMINE HOW FAR OFF YOUR CALCULATIONS ARE BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT CALCULATE THE CORRECT ANSWER! Besides, your said this is a discusion, when I called it a "pissing match", now it's an argument?
#124
I was going to actually look at the dyno you linked to, but your rebutals have gotten less and less factual and less intelligent. If it's like the 18 that I found that were rated to handle the HP, they would in no way work on a nitro-methane motor. They were designed for steady state, turbine, gas or diesel motors.
#125
Originally posted by: KnutzIf it's like the 18 that I found that were rated to handle the HP.....
I'm done with the thread. When it began, I respected you as an intelligent person that simply gave a (suposed)factual answer based on an unproven assumption. Your points have gotten less and less factual and the discussion has deteriorated to a moronic level. You will continue to believe that math is some black magic that doesn't require or solve for factual data. I imagine that you "discuss" any problems your children may get wrong on their math tests, with their teachers, supporting the "disscusion" with assumptions.
[note- this is in no way intended as an insult towards your children, all children make mistakes sometimes]
#126
Read all of the quote that you posted, it answers your question.
#128
Originally posted by: motox26
I think Knutz can't accept the fact that he is out of his league.
I think Knutz can't accept the fact that he is out of his league.


