utility quad for fast trail riding
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Troyboy just bought an 09 grizz 700 PS with 27" (big horns I think)- we swapped bikes for about 20 minutes on the trails last sunday. He took my 08 outty 800- I couldn't take a corner over 10mph no matter how much I leaned without the bike wanting to roll over- even in a power slide, and that was with the shocks adjusted to the most firm position. It's a very nice bike and very comfortable to ride, but very squishy in the corners and it likes to roll- my outty, on medium shocks, stays level and will toss the rider before rolling over. Both bikes had around 5-8 psi in the tires.
I was pretty bummed, because up until that point, I was in line to buy a new grizz. I love the way they look and sound. I know you can spend money to fix the roll, but how much???
Anyone else feel that with the grizz 700?
#12
I don't know about that 700 grizz-
Troyboy just bought an 09 grizz 700 PS with 27" (big horns I think)- we swapped bikes for about 20 minutes on the trails last sunday. He took my 08 outty 800- I couldn't take a corner over 10mph no matter how much I leaned without the bike wanting to roll over- even in a power slide, and that was with the shocks adjusted to the most firm position. It's a very nice bike and very comfortable to ride, but very squishy in the corners and it likes to roll- my outty, on medium shocks, stays level and will toss the rider before rolling over. Both bikes had around 5-8 psi in the tires.
I was pretty bummed, because up until that point, I was in line to buy a new grizz. I love the way they look and sound. I know you can spend money to fix the roll, but how much???
Anyone else feel that with the grizz 700?
Troyboy just bought an 09 grizz 700 PS with 27" (big horns I think)- we swapped bikes for about 20 minutes on the trails last sunday. He took my 08 outty 800- I couldn't take a corner over 10mph no matter how much I leaned without the bike wanting to roll over- even in a power slide, and that was with the shocks adjusted to the most firm position. It's a very nice bike and very comfortable to ride, but very squishy in the corners and it likes to roll- my outty, on medium shocks, stays level and will toss the rider before rolling over. Both bikes had around 5-8 psi in the tires.
I was pretty bummed, because up until that point, I was in line to buy a new grizz. I love the way they look and sound. I know you can spend money to fix the roll, but how much???
Anyone else feel that with the grizz 700?
#13
27" tires are good for mud running and big disadvantage in quick handing trail rides on any ATV made. A Grizzly with 25" tires will out perform one with over sized 27" tires easily in acceleration and steering.
I find a IRS faster than a SRA, when I ride a SRA Utility ATV I,m slowing down standing for bumps on the trail that would not even think about floating over with a IRS,also you have to go around higher rocks that could hit a SRA low slung rear diff, but a IRS would straddle with clearance to spare and keep a straight line.
I don,t think after they stopped making the Suzuki 500 Vinson, 500 Magnum,600 Grizzly and 400 Explorer they even make a fast Utility ATV with a Straight axle any longer.
I find a IRS faster than a SRA, when I ride a SRA Utility ATV I,m slowing down standing for bumps on the trail that would not even think about floating over with a IRS,also you have to go around higher rocks that could hit a SRA low slung rear diff, but a IRS would straddle with clearance to spare and keep a straight line.
I don,t think after they stopped making the Suzuki 500 Vinson, 500 Magnum,600 Grizzly and 400 Explorer they even make a fast Utility ATV with a Straight axle any longer.
#14
TLC, the Brute Force 650 is fast and has SRA. I can't speak to much else about them, but they are fast.
D57H, well put. Many big-bores are good for particular things, but the Grizz and King Quad are good across the board comprimise. Oh, the BF being good for mud... I gotta take issue with that one. Outlander or Polaris XP (NOT with stock tires) for the mud. A Grizz with good tires (again, NOT with stock tires) is no slouch in the muck, either. Yup, I gave a Yami some props. Can't believe it myself.
D57H, well put. Many big-bores are good for particular things, but the Grizz and King Quad are good across the board comprimise. Oh, the BF being good for mud... I gotta take issue with that one. Outlander or Polaris XP (NOT with stock tires) for the mud. A Grizz with good tires (again, NOT with stock tires) is no slouch in the muck, either. Yup, I gave a Yami some props. Can't believe it myself.
#15
Seems like the Renegade would have an advantage, the other utilities are very close?
I have an X2 and my buddies have CA,Griz,AC,Honda,Kaw, etc.....you can't beat the X2 in slower paced riding but once you start pushing it takes a lot of work.
I do feel like Chad, in the Polaris comercial, when the going gets rough, buddies all take the bypasses.
I'm sorta leaning towards one of the Touring 2 up models. Hopefully the new suspension and EPS will give it an edge. I've ridden all the atvs but always come back to CA and Polaris. The new AC 550 with EPS does seem nice, wonder how it compares for fast riding?
I have an X2 and my buddies have CA,Griz,AC,Honda,Kaw, etc.....you can't beat the X2 in slower paced riding but once you start pushing it takes a lot of work.
I do feel like Chad, in the Polaris comercial, when the going gets rough, buddies all take the bypasses.
I'm sorta leaning towards one of the Touring 2 up models. Hopefully the new suspension and EPS will give it an edge. I've ridden all the atvs but always come back to CA and Polaris. The new AC 550 with EPS does seem nice, wonder how it compares for fast riding?
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For a Utility ATV, Outlander 800, same power wise as a XP850 (70hp) with 120lb less weight.
The Rincon would be lucky to keep up with a Outlander 500 or a XP550 with its 39hp 680 OHV mortor.
2009 Can-Am Outlander™ 800R EFI XT ATVs
The Rincon would be lucky to keep up with a Outlander 500 or a XP550 with its 39hp 680 OHV mortor.
2009 Can-Am Outlander™ 800R EFI XT ATVs
Actually our riding buddy with the Rincon does very nicely keeping up with us on the 850's until the trail gets too muddy, or we hit wide open dirt roads. In the mud, his lack of aggression (and lack of a front locker) does him in. Only on the fire roads, or drags does the Rincon shows its lack of power.