you trying to get us kicked off of here?

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if you use your imagination you can save weight pretty easily. I have a double a-arm 250r that weighs in at 240lbs. Double a-arm's fully suspended. Granted its light weight and lacks front brakes. You could be generous and add 40 pounds to compensate for brakes and heavier wall a-arms, axle, swingarm, and thicker walled frame tube and your still at 280 for a basically mx ready bike. Honda can do it if they wanted.

 

I believe the CRF motor is lighter due to having 1 less cam amongst other things...

 

It is about time they made a new one. If they didnt they would be done wirh the sport ATV productions basically, I looks like a YFZ, but instead of the heardlight mouneted and the bottom, they are mounted in the plastic..Looks like they copied YFZ to me and changed the positioning of the headlights!!!

 

I just saw on rockymountainatv.com that they have the trx 450r added to their list of honda quads.

 

I just came back from vaca and a dealer in Oregon showed me the fax he got from honda with the fuzzy picture of the 450. It does look like the articat. He said he would see it at the show in Vegas.

 

what is all the hipe all it is is a 450 engine in the 400 frame it will be a big P.O.S Yamaha forever!!

 

OMG zzzzzzzz..........