Not much info, raced a stock raptor today. Both had stock tires on a slightly muddy road. In 100 yards, I had him by at least 10 bike lengths. Once the raptor hit 3rd gear, it held it's own though. Me 210lbs- Raptor owner 240. No incline.

Not talking trash or anything, just to give people an idea of the relative speed. I think with a pipe, airbox and jetting it would be a very close race though. At that point, I think the deciding factor would be whoever got the holeshot.

Anyways, not trying to start a flame war.... Just providing feedback to those who are looking at 450R or raptor.... In reverse, there was no competition- The raptor had me by 100 yards.

 

lol good to hear thanx for the info. so did you get the holeshot on him?

 

Yeah, I had the holeshot everytime.... Funny thing though, we both had a hard time keeping the front end down... I can't pick on the raptor for that one anymore.... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

All said and done, when the 450R, YFZ, Raptor, DS650, Pred, have decent mods without engine work- they are all pretty d@mn fast. To me a couple of quad lengths in 100 yards is marginal and really becomes less of a factor in the quad decision.

 

learning2fly Your quad is far from Stock though. Do you think a Stock 450r would be a good race against a Stock Raptor. What would win in a 100 yards and by how far.

 

yamaharideronly-I was at the dunes today and i saw a stock 450r and a stock raptor race a couple of times up our local competition hill and it was very close with the honda taking the raptor by maybe a quad length in a 300 foot race.These results may mean nothing because i have no idea about the riding skills of these two riders as compared to each other but the honda did seem to be stronger overall once they hit mid hill.

 

i beat a piped raptor today too. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] the key is getting off the line. the raptor was pulling on me once we were in 4th, but he couldn't catch me by the end because i would get him off the line. if we went farther, he would have passed me since he obviously would have more top speed than i do. i am not quite sure the distance we raced. it was probably a little longer than 100 yards. i would not quite get into 5th gear when the end of the field came around.

forgot to mention, this is on a mild 10.5:1 406ex with a hotcam. i wasn't on a 450r.

 

thats pretty damn pathetic how the guy on the 450r didnt spank the raptor the whole way, i mean a pipe and all that other crrap and he still beat you?

 

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Maybe I'm reading your post wrong, but you seem confused. The 450R won with its mods over the stock raptor. I dont' think it speaks poorly of the rap either, since the rider said once the rap hit 3rd it held it's own against the 450R. Perhaps a longer race would have a different outcome??

 

YamahaRiderOnly- I've never had mine stock. I picked up the 450R with the HRC kit installed. I would have to say that stock for stock I think the 450R would win, but the difference would be marginal (1-2) quad lengths.


NLWarrior01 - Thanks for properly interpreting what I was trying to say.


cals400ex- You hit on one of the points that I was trying to make as well. From 3rd gear on up, the raptor was a very formidable opponent.

 

That is what I saw when watching a race between a HRC kit Honda and a piped and jetted Raptor. It was within one or 2 bikes , but, my buddy was just shifting into 4rth gear so he may have passed the Honda. Either way, that new Honda runs good.