^^^That's what I'm sayin!! The 450R has a bit higher top speed anyway....

 

I think Honda just put a so so quad out there. They could have done so much better. Like EFI and aluminium frame. For me a z400 with a big bore kit is the best you can do these days.

 

YES, but that will not change the transmission gear ratio. No matter what sprocket you have on it, it will still be high relative to the other gears. All you are doing is shifting the curve. The changing of the sprockets will make it more ridable, and quicker when you gear down. But the first gear would still be higher with respect to the other gear. I'm not saying the gearing wouldnt make it better to ride, just that it doesnt change the transmission.

 

i havent lost in the 660 foot race to one yet except for a ported/piped one. has any one tried the duncan oversized valves for the 450r or yfz? im thinkin about havin them do my port job and throw in some of those valves too, that teamed with the sparks pipe and 14:1 piston my R is gonna kick ***

 

sounds like a nice setup. race gas is expensive though.

 

if it was me i would just put in a higher compression piston instead of lowering the gearing. we need to realize the 450r is around 10.5:1 where the yfz is near 12:1.

 

You guys that think the 450r has a too tall first gear could learn how to use a clutch instead of making an argument about it.......

 

I learned something new today. The Yamaha 450 has an edge on their foot pegs to keep your feet from sliding off and Honda 450 does not. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] I'm taking things one step at a time. I went to a Yamaha / Honda dealership to get my first close look at the 450R. No wait! I also learned that the Honda's cheap rear skid covers more than the Yamaha's cheap rear skid. Maybe someday I'll get a chance to ride them so I can learn even more.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Another reason I went in was to ask about the Raptor 350 that is supposed to come out in April. The third thing I learned was that salesmen are consistently stupid. It's not just a hit or miss thing. The salesman had never heard the words Raptor 350 until I spoke them to him. Totally clueless. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

 

Man the guy has a' RAPTURD' what kind of comments do you expect from a SORE yamahash! owner!!!!!!!!

 

I hope you say the same after 3 years of riding! cause thats all you gonna get!