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Default Lay off the crack pipe Honda, You put Reverse on the wrong Quad!!!

I wish that could happen. I dont think some of these manufactures know how big atving has gotten. And now it seems they have started listing to what the market wants. STARTED>
 
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Default Lay off the crack pipe Honda, You put Reverse on the wrong Quad!!!

Honda gets alot of credit for the 99 400ex. It started the new revolution for sportquads. I think that all manufacturers have their heads up their ****'s, because they wait way toooo long for improved models to come out. Mean while one of the other atv manufacturers releases an all new quad and mops up on sales for years ie, Raptor, Z400, YFZ and the other guys are wondering why they can't GIVE thier respective quads away at huge discounts. The 400ex is dated and dead. Honda needs to let it R.I.P. reverse or no reverse.. Air cooled is for VW's...
 
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Default Lay off the crack pipe Honda, You put Reverse on the wrong Quad!!!

During the 2004 model year the 400EX had a VERY stable position in the market place. It cost 3 bills more than the Raptor 350 but would smoke it in every performance catagory. This same 400EX was priced 4 bills less than the Z400 but is the same or extremely close in all performance catagories. Now, that doesn't sound like a dated and dead quad to anyone with common sense.

The problem is with the 05s. Sure, they made it better but not enough to match the Z400 dollar for dollar.
 
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Default Lay off the crack pipe Honda, You put Reverse on the wrong Quad!!!

my buddies rip like mad on their 400's or we can ride slower technical trails for long periods with zero problems. the 400 may not be the best at any one thing , but its rock solid at everything.
as much as people revere the great and almighty 250r, im really suprised they don't do the same for the 400ex. the 250r's were revolutionary, but keep in mind that before that without honda styepping up with the 400ex and revitalizing the sportquad market we may still all be putting a-arms and exhausts on warriors and 300ex's
 
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Default Lay off the crack pipe Honda, You put Reverse on the wrong Quad!!!

in fact the 250r is one of the best bikes if you were into quads which your history tells me no you would know that every new factory bike is being built to ride just like the 250r low to the ground and race ready honda just isn't upping the annie the yfz is a complete race bike and in the next few years you will see more factory race bikes coming stock and for the rev question if it was a true race bike rev is just added weight not needed but seeing how they built a great trail bike they should have put rev on it and get read off the air cooled 400ex and thats that
 
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Default Lay off the crack pipe Honda, You put Reverse on the wrong Quad!!!

i hope that wasnt directed at me ? i never said anything bad about the 250r. i just said im suprised people dont throw more credit towrds the 400ex. if honda would have never released a good handling high performance 4 stroke like the 400ex we may not have these great machines that we do today.
im pretty sure as great as the 250r is/was, everything i have read said that STOCK for STOCK the new 450r outshines it in every way. never rode the honda 250r only the suzuki so i can't really say for sure
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Default Lay off the crack pipe Honda, You put Reverse on the wrong Quad!!!

I am sooo sick of the " the 450r doesn't have elec start or reverse" crowd!! Probobly the same crowd that complains that their buddies stock quad beats their modded one. Sheesh!! Maybe honda should have somthing else to start the bike besides the riders right leg...and maybe honda should have reverse to get these riders out of tight spots that we "in shape" guys can just jump off the quad and throw the a$$ end around. I ride some very tight trails, and have had to do just that, and you know what?? by the time the guy behind or in front of me has found reverse and is backing up to find a place to turn around, I'm allready heading in the right direction and waiting for them to get the h3ll out of my way!! Maybe these guys should hit the little button, start their machine, put it in reverse and back their fat a$$es back on the couch, or in front of the computer where they belong!!!


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Default Lay off the crack pipe Honda, You put Reverse on the wrong Quad!!!

Originally posted by: YFZblu
Why would Honda put reverse on a 450R??

All that would do is add 13lbs. to the weight...Honda already had to put on a kickstarter to reduce weight...Adding reverse would be frivilous...They had to do it to the EX keep up with the Z...Although If I were honda, I would have added reverse, and put a bigger carb on the thing...thats just my .02....Hondas REAL mistake was pricing the quad the same as the z400...
I think Hondas mistake was not giving the EX a liquid cooled engine, keep it all the same, just give it a new head. Then I think they could have bumped the price up without looking like cheap bastards.
 
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Default Lay off the crack pipe Honda, You put Reverse on the wrong Quad!!!

Originally posted by: Jibrille
Originally posted by: YFZblu
Why would Honda put reverse on a 450R??

All that would do is add 13lbs. to the weight...Honda already had to put on a kickstarter to reduce weight...Adding reverse would be frivilous...They had to do it to the EX keep up with the Z...Although If I were honda, I would have added reverse, and put a bigger carb on the thing...thats just my .02....Hondas REAL mistake was pricing the quad the same as the z400...
I think Hondas mistake was not giving the EX a liquid cooled engine, keep it all the same, just give it a new head. Then I think they could have bumped the price up without looking like cheap bastards.

I think that Honda didn't liquid cool the 400ex because they figured that if they did that, then boring up to a 440 would be much more efficient than going to buy a 450R...I mean, the ex already LOOKS like the 450R....if I had a liquid cooled, 400ex with reverse sitting in my garage with 450R plastics on it, theres no way in HELL id shell out 5500 for a 450R...I'd just bore it up to a 440...the liquid cooling just makes it more efficient to do so...THATS why Honda didn't do it....and the liquid on the z400 may be a shot in the foot to suzuki when they produce the 450z...maybe im wrong...who knows

 


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