You are right, the old honda's where incredible, but don't totally sell the newer models short. I have seen guys with 20 000 KM's on their machines and selling them for $3500. People on here with 10 000 miles on the Rubicon's and very little mantenance. I'm not totally convince that a Honda is right for my riding style, but I know that If I go with any other manufacture, I'm increasing the odds of more wrench time. Which means more out of pocket in a fews years.